What I'm saying is, when a new user (using this interface) sees the map they would assume that the POI/business establishment are not yet in the "map". They would then add the info knowing it's not yet there.
I like the simplicity of ojw's mockup. We don't need to overcomplicate it at the moment. On 7/30/09, Joseph Reeves <iknowjos...@gmail.com> wrote: >>I prefer though that the data shouldn't be directly added to the >>database especially for well-mapped areas. >>Some POIs do not appear in the map (mapnik or osmarender). > > But then you're just mapping for the renderers - omitting data because > two of current representations of the database as provided by osm.org > don't show everything the database includes. What about if someone was > to produce a new renderer from current OSM data? > > Of course, renderers are only the start - if the OSM database > contained enough information about local businesses somebody could > start a project involving OSM, Asterisk and some text <-> speech > software that would allow you to phone a number and get a list of the > nearest bicycle shops to your current location that were open at the > time. Or the nearest car repair shop that was approved by your > insurance company, or... > > We shouldn't limit ourselves by what could be drawn on a map, > especially if we limit that even further by what is currently drawn on > two examples. > > Cheers, Joseph > > > > 2009/7/30 maning sambale <emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com>: >> This is really useful and would love this simple service to be >> implemented. >> I prefer though that the data shouldn't be directly added to the >> database especially for well-mapped areas. >> Some POIs do not appear in the map (mapnik or osmarender). A >> volunteer mapper can subscribe to a boundingbox >> and edit them before upload. I always prefer a human rather than some >> yellowpages.bot.script. >> >> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 5:05 AM, OJ W<ojwli...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>> Sorry for breaking the thread, but I did a mockup of a website that >>> people could use to enter their own businesses into OSM: >>> >>> http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/SmallAds/ >>> >>> so any user of this website can* create up to 5 OSM nodes, label them >>> as amenity=whatever, and enter a description, a phone number, and a >>> website. >>> >>> the idea would be: this is pitched at small business owners who've >>> never heard of OSM, and only buy advertising on yellow pages because >>> someone knocked at their door and sold it to them. It should take >>> less than 10 minutes to setup, for someone who only once per month >>> uses the computer their grandson bought them, and should be simple >>> enough that you can guide someone though it over the phone. >>> >>> Additionally, it should be easy for self-employed salesmen to go >>> around their home towns selling this service to every business, taking >>> some fixed price to enter the shop's details into OSM, print a map for >>> them, and give them an <img> for their website. We can't reach >>> everybody to help in OSM, but if someone sees a business in creating >>> free data then maybe they can help us. >>> >>> * I've done an basic webapp mockup, but could someone help with coding >>> the creation of OSM objects? It's neanderthal PHP at the moment, but >>> you can port it to rails or cake or J2EEmanagementEdition if you >>> prefer. >>> >>> Ideas welcome >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> OJW >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> talk mailing list >>> talk@openstreetmap.org >>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> cheers, >> maning >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden >> wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ >> blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> talk mailing list >> talk@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >> > -- cheers, maning ------------------------------------------------------ "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ ------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
