Not that I would suggest that we emulate the Ordnance Survey (;>) - but in England and Wales the OS map is currently the only readily accessible map that tells normal walkers, cyclists and riders where they may go. Bear in mind we have no 'jokamiehenoikeus'/'allmannsrät' in this country, i.e. in the countryside the public only has the right to walk/cycle/ride where this right exists - the default is NO rights (except on access land since the CROW Act) - the opposite of Germany, Scandinavia, etc. Signage does not reliably give this information either - for example, some landowners seem to have a magic potion that makes signs disappear at regular intervals!
So wouldn't it be nice if this (publicly available and non-copyright, possible - but not always easy - to find without using an OS map) information were also available on OSM? It's one of the reasons I started working as an off-road mapper in the OSM community in the UK. Mike Harris -----Original Message----- From: Martin Koppenhoefer [mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com] Sent: 13 August 2009 23:26 To: Roy Wallace Cc: osm Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Proliferation of path vs. footway] 2009/8/14 Roy Wallace <waldo000...@gmail.com>: >> Absolutely true: explicit in the wiki ;-) > > We have a database, let's populate it. The wiki is to help instruct > people how to best populate the database - it should not be a part of > the database itself. but this is not real "map"-information but it is legal information you could also get from different sources. If a way is legally a cycleway, all the laws and implications in that county apply automatically. You just need the info: "it is a cycleway" (and not simply a way where you can cycle, but one designated as such). That's why I would _not_ put foot=no, motorcar=no, hgv=no, psv=no, goods=no, horse=no, motorcycle=no, moped=no, airplanes=no, llamas=no on every single cycleway. It is implied. I would put foot=yes if they are allowed. The proposed wiki-table would just be for the comfort of the mappers (summarize the legal situation and document it in a OSM-focused way), but it would not be required to read the map (if you know the local laws). cheers, Martin _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk