On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Timothy C Litwiller <t...@litwiller.net> wrote: > I didn't find a newbie list so I've been reading the wiki and this list > for the last week.
Welcome, Tim. http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/newbies ;-) I don't know how busy that list is, so I signed up too. > I've been working on streets in and around Wichita and Newton, Kansas > for the last week, it seems there has been little done since the tiger > data import, as most freeway(motorway) intersections also connect > directly to the crossing street. I've been disconnecting and making sure > that the entrance and exit ramps match the yahoo image. and adding > bridges to the appropriate way. Excellent start. Changing arterial streets to highway=secondary will help give the city some context. Lots of the streets have abbreviated types. OSM wants Road instead of Rd, and Avenue instead of Ave. That's tedious work though. Change them as you touch them, I guess. Add parks and rivers to give the city some warmth. Add points of interest like businesses to get other locals interested in helping. > But before I do to much damage it would be nice if someone could give me > "constructive criticism" if and what I am missing and if I am doing > things correctly. Wow. Okay. > see this area > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=37.6777&lon=-97.3922&zoom=14&layers=B000FTF > and > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=38.0556&lon=-97.3127&zoom=14&layers=B000FTF I don't see glaring errors in my quick glance. If I was really picky I'd say this http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/13092530 should have a node intersecting with the railway marked as highway=level_crossing. The node is currently beside the railway. > I haven't even started describing lanes etc. You current discussion of > lanes on bridges is very interesting and I am assuming some of it also > pertains to lanes in a city setting. Consider that thread an arcane discussion of edge cases that will likely not enter your world. You'll see similar threads on other topics. > also - more questions about roads in a rural setting. > > we have dirt and/or sand or gravel roads every mile - I think I'll put > surface=unpaved and surface=dirt, is there a preferred way to designate > , like the UPS and Fedex men have maps, of which roads are not passable > when wet? > then about about every 5 - 10 miles there will be a county road that is > very rough pavement and between towns or out to the state or US highways > there will be a better paved road, then the US or state highway will > lead out to the interstate freeway > > so help me make sure I understand these levels > interstate freeway = motorway > US highway = primary > state highway = secondary > good county highway = terterary > or > county highway = residential surface=paved smoothness=good > poor county highway = residential surface=paved smoothness=bad The exact correlation between tags and legal designation only exists in England. The rest of us have to wing it. See a full discussion here http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_roads_tagging Use the wiki for guidance, use your judgment to adapt for local conditions. Tag more carefully when changing the work of another editor than when changing the work of a robot (or adding new material). > graveled & sand road highway= track? surface=unpaved > dirt road = highway= track? surface=dirt Sure. > if it is not passable when wet is there something else to add or will > surface=dirt be the key > then of course once in a while there are roads that have signs "minimum > maintenance" they aren't even good for bicycle travel - tractors and > 4wheel drives are all that go there. Take your best guess. Signed "minimum maintenance" sounds like it needs to get tagged. I'm not sure how. > nearing a destination you might want a gps device to use the county > highways in a route but certainly not route thru them unless you had to > use them to get to a particular stop. and the gravel or dirt roads you'd > want to not route at all unless there was no other way to get to that > stop - ie the stop was not on a paved road. Is there something that > would key that. That is up to the routing engines. Tag what you can see and others can verify. Highway= is a good start. Surface= adds some important cues. One man's "bad route for travel" may be another man's "scenic drive", so creating access=destination where no legal restriction exists seems mean. Welcome to OSM. Looks like you are already having fun. ;-) Best regards, Richard _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
