On 20 Oct 2009, at 12:01, Tom Hughes wrote:

> On 20/10/09 11:36, Peter Miller wrote:
>
>> On 20 Oct 2009, at 11:03, Sam Larsen wrote:
>>
>>> I am looking into the proper attribution of OSM in a tiled web
>>> mapping scenario.  I know the guidelines on attribution can be found
>>> on the wiki - and i have read them.
>>> There is also the list of non-conforming sites: 
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution
>>> Does anyone think, we should have a list of 'conforming' sites - as
>>> the CloudMade maps and even the main www.openstreetmap.org are
>>> listed as not having proper attribution.
>>
>> I think we should be kicking arse to get better conformance on this
>> rather than accepting that major websites and players within the
>> community are not conforming.
>
> I think we should start by asking people nicely before we get all
> medieval on their arses, don't you?

I believe we have already asked nicely, but I am not actually  
suggesting that anyone applies their footwear to anyone else's trouser  
fabric of course, only that we should do what is necessary to ensure  
that we have our house in order before expecting the same from others.

As Frederick points out however, any contributor can challenge any  
user of the data on their attribution of the contributors work.
>
> Incidentally I would also point out that much of that page is the work
> of one especially vociferous individual and there is considerable  
> debate
> among other people as to whether all the claims made there are  
> accurate.
>
> I for example added text disputing whether openstreetmap.org was  
> lacking
> attribution and the user in question simply reverted that edit without
> any comment or discussion.
>
> The main issue of debate surrounds exactly what forms of attribution
> are/are not valid.

Sure, so lets get that page showing how things should be onto the wiki  
and then make sure all the projects close to OSM comply and then we  
can work out from there (and also ensure that the list of sites  
lacking proper attribution is accurate).

Regards,


Peter


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