On 10 Nov 2009, at 12:33, Shaun McDonald wrote: > > On 10 Nov 2009, at 12:20, Peter Miller wrote: > >> >> On 10 Nov 2009, at 11:36, Peter Childs wrote: >> >>> While the map "quaility" may have some weight as to why people use >>> Google (or Bing for that matter) I suspect the bigger problem is the >>> User Interface. >>> >>> We have a good UI for map making maps but the API for rending and >>> searching the maps is hmm well complicated. >>> >>> Part of the problem stems from there being so many different ways to >>> do everything, >>> >>> I can't really say Google is any better at this really, but at least >>> its well documented and everything is in one place. >> >> Fyi, I have just had a response from Campaign for Better Transport. >> There are two reasons why they are not using OSM at present: >> >> 1) There is only partial building coverage which is confusing - they >> would prefer full or none but not partial. I will do a post to talk- >> gb >> to see if someone fancies doing some tracing in the area over the >> next >> week. > > You can turn the buildings off as another option: > http://maps.shaunmcdonald.me.uk/?lat=51.517289&lng=-0.122566&zoom=15&layer=1
Sure, nice, but the maps from CM on your site say '(c) 2009 Cloudmade, map data CCYSA OpenStreetMap and contributors'. My reading of this is that CloudMade are claiming (c) over the rendered images which would make it illegal to copy them without permission. Such a restriction is of course incompatible with the CC-BY-SA OSM data licence and I have queried this with Nick on legal talk a few weeks ago[1] but have not had a response to be question. I guess they could link into the CM system which is another idea, but currently they are just looking for a flat image. [1] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2009-October/002936.html Regards, Peter > >> >> 2) The tube and railway symbols are not the normal ones used within >> the UK. I will suggest that the overlay the normal UK symbols on the >> map in some editing software. > > A custom renderer could be setup with the symbols that are needed, > though if they are going to be clickable for more information > markers would possibly be better, though they would need to be > dynamically loaded. > > Shaun > >> >> The above does however show the level of quality and completeness >> that >> will be required to win people over, aside from any usability issues >> and doubts over licensing and attribution. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> Peter >> >> >>> >>> Peter. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> talk mailing list >>> talk@openstreetmap.org >>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> talk mailing list >> talk@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
