On Feb 24, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Andy Allan wrote: > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:06 PM, SteveC <st...@asklater.com> wrote: >> >> On Feb 24, 2010, at 2:27 AM, Andy Allan wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 11:42 PM, SteveC <st...@asklater.com> wrote: > >>>> Sure, you don't like the way I communicate sometimes >>> >>> Hmm. It sounds to me like you don't think you've done anything wrong? >>> I notice you don't write "Sure, I'm grossly offensive without due >>> cause sometimes", but instead infer that the issue isn't the way you >>> behave, instead it's that other people dislike your behaviour. >> >> Andy all I'm doing is repeating what I get from newbies all the time, and >> adding another sentence that you ignore because below you just want to >> evolve things, and I think it needs a step change. > > "but he doesn't give a shit and lives on a boat in bliss"
I also said 'that's fine' > doesn't > sound like "all you're doing is repeating what you get from newbies". yes, I'm going a step further is pointing out the cause. >> Andy, building community and moving things on is not just "be nice to >> everyone all the time". Sometimes it's also about being honest and saying, >> this is wrong, we can fix it. > > If you can't be nice when you criticise, then don't criticise. And > please learn the difference between being honest and being rude. >>> * Steve apologies - without caveats - regarding his demeaning of >>> existing developers work >> >> You're not seriously suggesting the PL user experience is non-crap and the >> codebase is non-crap right? Because I think that's all I said. > > Nice apology. I like the way you've learned to show respect for other > people's work. Dude - *my work* was crap! Just go and look at the code! Then people like Matt and Frederik came and Shaun and you added/fixed things. Can't you just get over yourself and admit that a newbie coming to OSM has a crap time? It's not hard! Stop defending it all. Yours &c. Steve _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk