Dear Julio, (it's easier for me to write in English, since you understand)
David writes:
"Having said that we do see that imagery will be available for wider use
in Chile as well. "
My understanding, in this context, is that "wider use" would likely
include tracing by OSM.
(But no specific imagery is mentioned)
It would probably be best to ask him (and/or specific imagery sources)
for clarification, and also how the source image would be available.
Getting in touch with Chile institutions ONEMI and SNIT would certainly
be a good thing ("any effort should be centred on their needs and
guidance"). I see there is a contact at ONEMI for the Charter at:
http://www.un-spider.org/page/3287/spaceaid-available-space-based-information-earthquake-and-tsunami-chile
I have heard that Chile has now decided to accept the help of the
international community. This would be a way people from abroad could
contribute, along with fellow Chile citizens, like those whose effort
you are organising.
Best,
Jean-Guilhem
Julio Costa Zambelli a écrit :
(In English after the break...)
Estimado Jean-Guilhem,
En la misma linea de las preguntas de Mikel (No me quedo del todo
claro con la respuesta de David), ¿Tienes alguna claridad sobre la
liberación de la licencia de GeoEye una vez que sus imágenes estén
disponibles? (Obviamente la frase: "5 disasters since Haiti and none
of them received the same attention and dedication as Haiti" me preocupa)
El resto de las imágenes ya disponibles están bien, pero la alta
resolución es muy necesaria para avanzar en el trazado y etiquetado de
todos los pueblos de la zona afectada.
Gracias todos por su ayuda y cooperación.
Saludos,
Julio Costa
OpenStreetMap Chile
http://www.openstreetmap.cl/
##ENGLISH##
Dear Jean-Guilhem,
In the same line of Mikels questions (I did not see it clear on Davids
response), Are you clear on the liberation of GeoEyes data license
once their imagery is available? (Obviously the phrase "5 disasters
since Haiti and none of them received the same attention and
dedication as Haiti" concerns me)
The already available images are alright, but high resolution imagery
is quite necessary to trace and tag all the towns on the affected area.
Thank you all for your help and cooperation.
Cheers,
Julio Costa
OpenStreetMap Chile
http://www.openstreetmap.cl/
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton <j...@arkemie.com
<mailto:j...@arkemie.com>> wrote:
Hola,
Imágenes satélite de Chile post-evento están disponibles. Ver
http://www.un-spider.org/chile
y
http://www.un-spider.org/page/3287/spaceaid-available-space-based-information-earthquake-and-tsunami-chile
para detalles.
Saludos,
Jean-Guilhem
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Sujet : Re: Open Imagery for Chile
Date : Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:58:36 +0100
De : David Stevens <tazarko...@gmail.com>
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Mikel,
I wanted to put forward some info and help build upon your proposal.
First of all I do want to say that UN-SPIDER is a UN Programme
that has been specifically mandated by all UN Member States to
help all countries as well as regional and international
organisations to access and use space-based information. It is an
interesting mandate because it means ensuring access and use as
well as building capacity. We don't produce maps. We ensure end
users and their partners are able to do it and use it for decision
making. The fact we have the mandate means we work closely with
the government institutions responsible for emergency response and
disaster risk management and also with partners supporting these
end users. More importantly after the response phase is gone and
the media chasers have packed their bags and gone after another
spotlight we continue working with the Government as in the case
in Haiti: our work begins now as we help the Civil Protection
Agency rebuild and get ready including for the next hurricane season.
We are a Cooperating Body for the United Nations to the
International Charter which means whenever the UN is involved in
an emergency response we activate the International Charter as has
been the case for both Haiti and Chile.
The Charter does not make the imagery data available but only the
end products. In some mega disasters imagery does become available
for free as was the case during the 2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami and
the Haiti earthquake. We are working to ensure that imagery
becomes a bit more widely available and not only for mega
disasters. We have been involved and supported 5 disasters since
Haiti and none of them received the same attention and dedication
as Haiti.
Having said that we do see that imagery will be available for
wider use in Chile as well. We have updated the info on what is
being made available on our webpage
http://www.un-spider.org/chile
Two requests
First if the crisismapper community could help us include info on
available imagery and geospatial data that would help. I know
there are several other portals as well with similar info but for
sure our end users do access the UN-SPIDER Knowledge Portal first.
Please feel free to replicate the info we have on other portals as
well. We would appreciate a link to our portal. And we will ensure
we include a link to the other portals. Please send us any info to
include to the following e-mail: space...@unoosa.org
<mailto:space...@unoosa.org>
Then regarding the mapping support for Chile we are open for
suggestions. In Chile there are strong and efficient government
institutions in place, both ONEMI and SNIT, and any effort should
be centred on their needs and guidance.
One last useful info: UN-SPIDER is implemented by the United
Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs. We are part of the UN
Secretariat and we are the UN Office responsible for promoting the
access and use of space-based technologies and solutions. Space is
our business and our mandate.
Regards
David
David Stevens
Programme Coordinator
UN-SPIDER
United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs
Vienna - Austria
Tel. ++43-(1)-26060-5631 - Skype: tazarkount
Mobile +43 - 699 1459-5631 - E-Mail david.stev...@unoosa.org
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On 28 February 2010 06:25, Mikel Maron <mikel_ma...@yahoo.com
<mailto:mikel_ma...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
Colleagues
Can we replicate the true environment of sharing that began in
the response to Haiti?
We are all at ready to respond once we hear the needs for
Chile. OSM is ready to map, CrisisCamps are planned, there is
an OSM Chile community who we are trying to get through to.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2010_Chile_earthquake
Simply, we need imagery we can use. I was hoping this would be
an issue we all could discuss in the next few months, but now
the need is urgent.
The basic question ... will licensing allow use of the raw
imagery data for response?
* DigitalGlobe, GeoEye: Are acquisitions planned yet? Will
license terms be dropped again?
* Google: If you post imagery, can you make sure OSM has an
exception to the non-commercial clause?
* UN Charter: Any possibility of sharing imagery with
volunteer groups?
* Chris Schmidt/Schuyler Erle: Would you be ready to process
imagery again?
All ... any other sources or thoughts?
Best
Mikel
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