On Sep 7, 2010, at 10:02 AM, 80n wrote: > Eric > It is your content and your copyright. If you believe that Google or anyone > else is infringing your copyright then it is your right to take up this issue > with them directly. > > Most infringments are accidental and if you approach the infringer in a > helpful and sympathetic way then they will usually react swiftly and be very > apologetic. There was a very recent case with Waze which was dealt with very > promptly and to everyone's satisfaction: > http://www.waze.com/blog/thanks-and-huge-apology-to-the-openstreetmap-community/ > > In the first instance it is often better to deal with these things off-list > rather than naming the possible offender in public. > > OSMF's role is to provide support to contributors, and you may find that they > can help you deal with the issue. The Data Working Group is the team that > deals with this kind of thing: > http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Groups#Data_Working_Group They are > well connected and can probably help you contact the correct people within > Google. > > I think we'd all love Google to use OSM content and they are welcome to do so > as long they provide the correct attribution. This is probably the right > spirit in which to approach them initially. > > 80n >
Thanks for the explanation/advise. Eric > > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Eric Jarvies <e...@csl.com.mx> wrote: > Perhaps someone who knows can answer my original question... does Google > MapMaker use(according to the OSM license) OSM data? If not, then perhaps the > person/people whom typically deal with these matters can communicate with me > accordingly, so I may provide information and explain the situation in > detail, so it may be addressed pragmatically, either validating or > invalidating it prior to the entire list being pointed to(alerted of) the > suspected problem. > > I say this because I do not have the -OSM- experience that is necessary to > validate what I suspect, as it relates to changesets, and being able to go > back a few versions and render the specific version in question, so it may be > compared with what is being used over at Google MapMaker. I am 99.9% certain > that the coastline that is being displayed over there on Google MapMaker is > in fact one in the same as one of my screwed-up iterations, which has > subsequently been changed and hopefully repaired(but not yet rendered by > OSM... tick tock tick tock). The very nature of the way I changed/edited the > coastline was deliberately inaccurate and very unique, meaning it did not > follow the real coastline, because at the time I was still trying to hunt > down a problem, a problem that I later discovered did not really exist(I just > needed to wait days/weeks for OSM to render the coastline), and so I arranged > the coastline in a very deliberate way so that I would see the change when it > rendered, as I was trying to substantiate if my changes were actually > occurring/working or not. > > Thus, anyone who is capable of going back to a previous version in this > particular way/changeset and rendering it, will be able to render the exact > same coastline that is being displayed over at Google MapMaker. > > Is this how this type of issue is normally dealt with? > > Eric > > > > On Sep 7, 2010, at 8:00 AM, Emilie Laffray wrote: > >> >> >> On 7 September 2010 14:51, Eric Jarvies <e...@csl.com.mx> wrote: >> Grant, >> >> Yes, I can point to an example... but prior to bringing attention to the >> matter/area, I would instead prefer to monitor it and see what else appears. >> The coastline, akaik, is not editable by users/contributors, which is why I >> asked if Google is now using OSM data. >> >> >> I think that even an example would be nice, so more people can have a look >> at what is happening. It would be best if we realized what is going on >> sooner rather than later. >> >> Emilie Laffray >> _______________________________________________ >> legal-talk mailing list >> legal-t...@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk > > > _______________________________________________ > legal-talk mailing list > legal-t...@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk > > > _______________________________________________ > legal-talk mailing list > legal-t...@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
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