On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Dermot McNally <derm...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 14 June 2011 05:18, Russ Nelson <nel...@crynwr.com> wrote: > >> Nathan was being gracious. You ARE trolling. Stop it. > > I like to assume good faith on the lists. I have never for a moment > doubted the sincerity of your position on the licence change, and I > demand the same courtesy from you.
The Troll word is used so often around in this community that it's hard to speak about courtesy. I wouldn't take it personally, it's used against almost everyone who voice strong opinions against the license change. > Most countries and organisations avoid > the kind of micro-democracy that would have avoided the situation we > have today in OSM where some people (a minority) complain that they > are being asked to "vote" (or "pronounce", "decide", "choose" if you > don't want to call it a vote) on the wrong question and that they > would prefer to have been asked a different question. But this is a vital part of deciding stuff, if you are going to have a vote you have to decide what the vote is about. I go to a lot of meetings where 100+ people are trying to decide what to do with the interests of thousands of other people that aren't present, and they all use a process where the minority can propose changes and have them voted upon. In meetings you have a "motion to do something" and then vote about amendments that are brought up etc. Read the wikipedia article on this closely if you are unsure what I mean. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_(democracy). Since this was missing I think the democratic foundation of the license change is minimum, maybe there existed/exists a great support for it. I don't understand how anyone can think that the results from all these "polls" are valid democratic votes. _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
