Hi,

On 07/13/2011 03:22 PM, Steve Bennett wrote:
Also, in case this hasn't become clear, I am not in favour of +1/-1 buttons
for *contributors*, but for individual *changesets*.

Well, until you start compiling them into a league table of
least-liked contributors. Which, erm, you proposed. :)

A "witch-hunt", of which you chose to speak, would IMHO be something where I vote up or down a person.

I was thinking of voting up or down contributions, and yes, this could also lead to league tables that identify people with consistently problematic edits; but that would not be because of who they are, but because of what they do. Maybe I am the only one seeing a difference here but personally I have absolutely zero problem in saying something like "this person has consistently made edits that others in the project found sub-standard". This has nothing to do with hurling insults at anybody.

(But frankly I would expect such a system to be much more fine grained; I would expect the "average" score of most changesets to be positive - just like we have many more up-votes than down-votes on help.osm.org; but if you are a contributor who, like most, does well most of the time, and then you start doing something new and suddenly you're getting bad feedback for that then you might be inclined to re-think. Such negative feedback is possible even today by sending them a message, but that's a much higher hurdle so you'll have many people who say "eek, that looks stupid" but they won't bother writing. A +1/-1 button would be a measure with more participation.)

I am not a friend of policies and guidelines

Ah. I am. For all the complaints of "wikilawyering" at Wikipedia, at
least it means the effort is focused on improving policies and
guidelines, rather than simply hurling insults at each other. Or,
almost worse, the interminable discussions on the tagging lists that
briefly build consensus which is promptly forgotten because it wasn't
recorded anywhere.

I think there should be policies and guidelines for a few "hard" things but
there will always be "soft" things where setting up rules is extremely
difficult.

Policies for hard things, guidelines for soft things.

Why don't you start a committee to set up policies and guidelines, and I do +1/-1 buttons on changesets, and in a year we meet to compare results ;)

Bye
Frederik


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