Hi,

Serge Wroclawski wrote:
The experience on Wikipedia is that reverting a changeset is a pretty
offensive action to take, requiring great care. If "-1" is a vote for
reversion, then presumably equal care ought to be exercised. And IMHO
a better option is to discuss the change, rather than to simply vote
it down. "Hey, are you sure about tagging these as tracks, they look
like walking paths to me?" builds community better than "-1".

I concur. I think voting often leads to bad things. Flagging
changesets might be useful, with some kind of metamoderation, but /as
things stand today/, I think this goes against the spirit of the
project because "Who decided whose a moderator".

I say it again: In my mind, a "-1" is nothing more or less than "I do not like this". In my mind, everyone should have a right to express that opinion even without giving reasons, although of course it is better if people say why they don't like something. You have a right to dislike a changeset *even* *if* *it* *complies* *with* *any* *rule* *there* *is*, and even if there is no objective reason whatsover for a revert. You can still dislike it, and say so.

And, apart from perhaps very extreme cases, I wouldn't say it is a "vote for reverting". Just like a -1 vote on help.openstreetmap.org, I expect that a changeset that has accumulated many negative votes will just sit there as a warning to others: "don't do this", or "don't do it this way", or "a majority of people who saw this disliked it".

It was maybe my fault to open this discussion pointing to a negative example so everyone got fixated on the "-1" button but of course there will be a "+1" button to, and again, everyone has the right to like anything.

I hope that I'll soon be able to set up a prototype of this feature and then we can all look at it together and we'll have a much better idea how it feels in practice.

Bye
Frederik

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