Sorry but Frederik and my numbers (odbl.poole.ch) are compatible
(odbl.de naturally not, RTFM). Just because some areas look like a big
red blob, doesn't mean that are lot of useful (ie non-imported) data is
being lost, look at Spain for example.
Simon
Am 14.12.2011 02:12, schrieb Jo:
The numbers come from Frederik's map and some areas really look
dramatic. odbl.poole.ch <http://odbl.poole.ch> and http://odbl.de come
to very optimistic conclusions. Possibly because they only consider
the last contributor to an object or another metric which doesn't hold
water.
Jo
2011/12/14 Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch <mailto:si...@poole.ch>>
David
I'm not quite sure where you got your numbers from, but it is
clear that in terms of outright deletions we are talking of less
than 5%.
See odbl.poole.ch <http://odbl.poole.ch>
Simon
David Earl <da...@frankieandshadow.com
<mailto:da...@frankieandshadow.com>> schrieb:
On Tuesday, December 13, 2011, Jo <winfi...@gmail.com
<mailto:winfi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Critical mass is there, at a ratio of more than a 100/1 and
that is of the people who had to speak out their opinion.
That's not the point. Since not making a decision is the same
as declining for the purposes of data survival, deleting a
quarter to a third of the map seems to me to be the project
committing suicide. It will improve no doubt as time goes on,
but I was seriously expecting the threshold to be in the 90+%
of data survival to proceed.
Yes, the 100/1 means that only a tiny fraction of the red and
orange is ideological, it's surely mostly about people who
have moved on, in interests, email addresses or mortality who
we'll just never hear from. If it were just their edits, I'd
be much less concerned, but it's the way it kills everyone
else afterwards. It's even more galling when they deleted the
original data to make their edit, so they've effectively taken
the earlier work away too.
I'll certainly be contacting people now Frederick has provided
an easy means to evaluate the data, but I'm not overly
optimistic about people replying - I run a membership database
and find maybe 10% of people change their email addresses each
year, and half of those don't tell me, and that's when they've
paid an annual sub to belong.
Is anyone going to answer the question about the threshold?
I'm not being rhetorical, I really would like to know.
David
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