+1 On Jan 8, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Rob Nickerson <rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Richard, (All,) > > I read your email below and it saddened me that you feel this way. I > therefore want to write a quick thank-you on behalf of the "silent layer of > contributors". We are grateful for the work that all developers put into OSM > and please do not feel disheartened by a few negative responses. When I meet > up with other mappers face-to-face there is still a lot of positivity towards > the project, and any negative comments are perhaps a sign that people are > passionate and care about it too. Unfortunately we are all guilty of not > giving enough positive feedback and therefore it the negative comments can > start to look like a personal attack. They most certainly are not. > > Please keep up the good work - we got over the change to ODbL, we can tackle > anything :-) > > All the best > Rob > > > == Quote: == > Complete disarming honesty time: the thing that puts me off working on OSM > code (and heaven knows I've spent enough time on it over the years) isn't > the lack of remuneration. It's the community, and its sense of entitlement. > > Something has gone wrong with the OSM community and I wish I knew how to fix > it. Writing code for OSM has become a really thankless, unpleasant business. > Most of the Top Ten Tasks, though ambitious - that's why they're in the Top > Ten, after all - are perfectly within the capability of one developer with a > vague acquaintance with OSM and a modest design sensibility. (Of them all, > the hardest is actually being tackled - by you, of course, Paweł!) > > But really, why bother? You'll only get crap thrown at you for doing so. > Every time there's even a modest layout improvement to the front page, all > hell breaks loose on some forum or other and there's an outcry of "Why > wasn't I consulted?". Let's keep the WMF comparison going: I don't think the > Wikipedia, or Linux, guys consult the entire fucking community every time > they swap two bytes in the code. But for some reason, much of our community > expects it, and vocally, without being prepared to lift a finger to help. > > Thing is, if you actually look below the surface of the lists and the > diaries and the chat snipers and all of that, there's a huge, silent layer > of contributors new and old, just as there's always been, quietly getting on > with mapping the world (when, that is, they're not being angry-messaged by > "experienced" users to say YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG). They're the guys who make > OSM what it is, not the voices on the lists. But I'm not strong enough to > ignore the noisy ones, and I wish I was. > > cheers > Richard > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk Alex Barth http://twitter.com/lxbarth tel (+1) 202 250 3633 _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
