+1 I totally agree, a few negative are always more visible than a lot of silent positive !
Sylvain 2013/1/9 RB <tan...@gmail.com> > +1 > > Thank you very much from a "silent mapper". > > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 11:26 PM, Rob Nickerson > <rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> Richard, (All,) >> >> I read your email below and it saddened me that you feel this way. I >> therefore want to write a quick thank-you on behalf of the "silent layer of >> contributors". We are grateful for the work that all developers put into >> OSM and please do not feel disheartened by a few negative responses. When I >> meet up with other mappers face-to-face there is still a lot of positivity >> towards the project, and any negative comments are perhaps a sign that >> people are passionate and care about it too. Unfortunately we are all >> guilty of not giving enough positive feedback and therefore it the negative >> comments can start to look like a personal attack. They most certainly are >> not. >> >> Please keep up the good work - we got over the change to ODbL, we can >> tackle anything :-) >> >> All the best >> Rob >> >> >> == Quote: == >> >> Complete disarming honesty time: the thing that puts me off working on OSM >> code (and heaven knows I've spent enough time on it over the years) isn't >> the lack of remuneration. It's the community, and its sense of entitlement. >> >> Something has gone wrong with the OSM community and I wish I knew how to fix >> it. Writing code for OSM has become a really thankless, unpleasant business. >> Most of the Top Ten Tasks, though ambitious - that's why they're in the Top >> Ten, after all - are perfectly within the capability of one developer with a >> vague acquaintance with OSM and a modest design sensibility. (Of them all, >> the hardest is actually being tackled - by you, of course, Paweł!) >> >> But really, why bother? You'll only get crap thrown at you for doing so. >> Every time there's even a modest layout improvement to the front page, all >> hell breaks loose on some forum or other and there's an outcry of "Why >> wasn't I consulted?". Let's keep the WMF comparison going: I don't think the >> Wikipedia, or Linux, guys consult the entire fucking community every time >> they swap two bytes in the code. But for some reason, much of our community >> expects it, and vocally, without being prepared to lift a finger to help. >> >> Thing is, if you actually look below the surface of the lists and the >> diaries and the chat snipers and all of that, there's a huge, silent layer >> of contributors new and old, just as there's always been, quietly getting on >> with mapping the world (when, that is, they're not being angry-messaged by >> "experienced" users to say YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG). They're the guys who make >> OSM what it is, not the voices on the lists. But I'm not strong enough to >> ignore the noisy ones, and I wish I was. >> >> cheers >> Richard >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> talk mailing list >> talk@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > >
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