My reply is going private as it's now OT.

On 21/07/2013 02:17, Kathleen Danielson wrote:

    My criticisms are based purely on his inability to communicate
    clearly.


Dave,

As you say, you know nothing personally of this man, and yet you have discerned he is unable to communicate? Saman is not above criticism. However, we, as a community, are above sweeping statements such as the ones you have made. Constructive feedback is a vital part of progress, but please be more considerate of your fellow community members who are working hard to make OpenStreetMap.org a more useful tool for everyone when you disparage not just their work, but them personally.

In addition, if you are going to take this route, please be sure to focus your responses on ideas and products put forth, and do not make character attacks. Having watched a video of a presentation does not entitle you or anyone to point out a person's "failings".


On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Dave F. <dave...@madasafish.com <mailto:dave...@madasafish.com>> wrote:

    Hello Tom

    I reject & mildly resent your criticism that I made an ad hominem
    attack. I know nothing personally of this man. My criticisms are
    based purely on his inability to communicate clearly. As the
    primary reason for his lecture was to explain the new layout I
    feel perfectly entitled to point out his failings.

    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ad-hominem

    You appear to believe that as he has "emotions", he is above
    criticism. Strange.

    Dave F.


    On 21/07/2013 01:42, Tom MacWright wrote:

        Hi Dave,

        Please be civil, we're all trying our best to be nice and make
        progress here. It's inappropriate to start ad-hominem
        attacking developers, especially in the case of Saman - who is
        in fact a designer, not to mention a real person, in the real
        world, with actual emotions.

        Thanks,

        Tom




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