On 28 April 2014 08:54, Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org> wrote: > At least at face value, this presents issues for the US chapter, given > blind people... >
The most frequent response I have heard to similar comments in the past was that the map as a whole presents more of an issue. It may seem a bit obstructive and glib, but perhaps there is some truth here. I think it could be a good opportunity to examine all our infrastructures not only image representations of geospatial data (i.e maps). Blindness is a spectrum as I understand it - perhaps the lessons that are being learnt in making OSM more vision impaired people into OSM could be taught to everyone making mapping tools. What progress has been made here and how could these be added to improve this project? > > On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 1:45 AM, Stefan Keller <sfkel...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Kate >> >> 2014-04-28 7:40 GMT+02:00 Kate Chapman <k...@maploser.com>: >> >> > I think there would need to be audio challenges. >> > There are projects for helping make OSM accessible to people who are >> vision impaired, this includes information on the OSM wiki. >>> >>> >> I understand. But audio is a complete different technology and our >> project wanted to focus on visual clues. >> >> Yours, Stefan >> >> >> 2014-04-28 7:40 GMT+02:00 Kate Chapman <k...@maploser.com>: >> >> Hi Stefan, >>> >>> On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Stefan Keller <sfkel...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> 2014-04-27 21:08 GMT+02:00 Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> > I think a bigger situation is that I don't see how this could >>>> possibly be ADA compliant: >>>> > How does a blind person pass? >>>> >>>> We could add audio challenges - but that's not needed since the context >>>> and target sites where ReMAPTCHA is designed for, are geospatial websites >>>> and graphic editors. >>>> >>> >>> I think there would need to be audio challenges. There are projects for >>> helping make OSM accessible to people who are vision impaired, this >>> includes information on the OSM wiki. >>> >>>> >>>> -S. >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> 2014-04-27 21:08 GMT+02:00 Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org>: >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 8:21 AM, moltonel 3x Combo <molto...@gmail.com >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm worried about bots still having a very high chance of sucess. With >>>>>> two fairly-legible words in the image and a chalenge asking me to >>>>>> write either one of the words or both, a bot still has 33% chance of >>>>>> success if answering randomly, wich is high enough that bot authors >>>>>> won't even bother trying to smartly interpret the map. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I think a bigger situation is that I don't see how this could possibly >>>>> be ADA compliant: How does a blind person pass? >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> talk mailing list >>>> talk@openstreetmap.org >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > >
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