On 23/06/2014 22:12, Rob Nickerson wrote:
Andy,

I think there is a lot of positives in the new rendering as well. I for one am delighted to see some life back in the "standard" map style, this way new tags can be (and have been) added to the rendering rules. So it's a mix - some things are improved, some things are added, and a few things get removed.


That's not what's happening it's very much a one-way street - the standard style is being gutted, with obvious replacement available.

As for a "show it all map", I guess this is where Vector Tiles may help in the future.

Perhaps you would care to elaborate on how that would work? A vector tile implementation simply moves the place where rendering takes place; it does not eliminate the requirement. Someone, somewhere, still has to decide "we'll show XYZ on ABC map style".

Meanwhile we have a lot of rendering options available, it's also easier than ever to create your own, and tools like Overpass Turbo allow you to on-the-fly checks of the data.

No, that doesn't work. For example, look at the questions on the help site, and you'll see comments like "But I don't want to lose my time adding information that never appears" here:

https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/34480/changes-dont-get-rendered

A standard style that shows "what J Random Mapper has just added" is an essential part of the new mapper feedback loop. It doesn't have to be _the_ standard style, just _a_ standard style.

Cheers,

Andy

PS: By the way, Rob, your mail reader seems to be still broken - you're replying out of thread again.


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