Hi, I wonder why we're discussing here everything else but what Frederik mentioned in his manifesto and in this reply above.
Richard voted that the board should stand down. I can't oversea the situation but I tend to give our colleages a second chance to fix things. I do that also knowing that OSMF is young with few members, many of them being also members in WGs. On 2014-10-21 15:47 GMT+02:00, Frederik Ramm wrote: > ... > In short, what I'd like to see is (a) more people joining OSMF, and (b) > at least some these people actually following and commenting on what the > board does, or doesn't do, in their name. To me, actions speak louder than words. So, I decided to join OSMF these days. And I propose to add the following to the board meeting agenda: * Setting up a clearer modus operandi of the board and working groups * Making the board meeting agenda publicly available * Advancing trademark policy * Setting up a plan to get more corporate members (actually, these points are just taken from Frederik's plea). Yours, S. 2014-10-22 0:05 GMT+02:00 Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch>: > > Jason, > > I suspect you are slightly over interpreting what has been said up to > now. Our accountant and the treasurer have control of the back accounts > and I wouldn't expect to have direct access (nor likely other board > members). The board has relied on the treasurer for cash management and > I have no reason to believe that there are any issues with that other > than it is not very transparent. Other points wrt financial planning and > SOTM have already been raised. > > Historically there seems to have been very little financial reporting, > the board did however three years back or so, as a principle, ask for > quarterly reports, which IMHO is enough given the size of the > organisation and number of transactions. This has been a long time in > the making, but our accountant does produce them now, there is simply > some fail in bringing them to the boards attention (and a further step > would actually be publishing them). Or to put it differently: the OSMF > likely has never had as good control of its financials as right now, > there is simply still more to do. > > There is an interesting point in that there is no external/internal > audit of any kind. Not unusual for small companies, but is a bit unusual > for a membership organisation. Very small SOSM for example has two > (elected) members review the accounts in lieu of a proper audit and > report their findings at the AGM. I could imagine doing something > similar in the OSMF (no idea if this causes any legal issues, but that > can be investigated) given that we currently probably don't want to > spend the money for a formal audit. > > Note that Oliver has announced (a couple of weeks back) that he will > resign as treasurer and I expect that the board will elect a replacement > or put an other solution in place at the first meeting after the elections. > > Simon > > Am 21.10.2014 22:37, schrieb Jason Remillard: >> Hi, >> >> This is an unhappy read. I am stunned that the board members don't >> have access to the bank registers. How can any decisions be made about >> the servers, STOM, fundraising effectiveness, etc without having a >> handle on the cash? The foundation handles so little money, it should >> be very simple keeping the bank registers up to date. Could our >> treasure, Oliver Kühn , please justify this policy on the talk list. I >> am going to be very reluctant to give more money to the foundation >> until this policy is changed. >> >> Jason >> >>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Frederik_Ramm/2014_OSMF_Board_Elections_Manifesto >>>> >>>> This sheds some rather bad light on how the board operates, indicating >>>> that >>>> some of the practises border on the illigal. I understand that this is the >>>> individual opinion of a single board member but I believe it is important >>>> that such accusations are discussed because I don't see how the board can >>>> operate efficiently otherwise. It is even more important in the light of >>>> the upcoming elections. Reading this manifesto indicates that there is >>>> little point in standing for election as there is nothing but frustration >>>> to achieve in the board. >>> >>> As a former board member, I would concur with Frederik's posting which >>> tallies with my unhappy experience on the board. >> _______________________________________________ >> talk mailing list >> talk@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
