The suggests values of
weather related - rain/snow will change with the weather .. naturally.
slippery = surface related ... could be tagged with surface=?
glass-shard .. can be cleaned up, thus temporary like the weather ... I
have stopped and swept things off the path .. used some cardboard out of
a local bin. I've seen other cyclist do the same.
Crime .. effects not only cyclist.
-------- As Paul says below - subjective. Not that that is a bad thing
.. but makes one mapper tag something as dangerous while another says it
is very good. So hard to set hard values on this.
On 8/03/2015 4:47 AM, Paul Johnson wrote:
I've brought this up before, but have since gone with the general
consensus that this is just too subjective, even if we were to come up
with some kind of rubric to standardize things. A big and highly
inconsistent issue between regions is regional attitude. I don't care
for on-street riding, even in a reasonably extensive network of bike
lanes in Portland largely because motorists have a tendency of
ignoring lane access completely, often driving against traffic or in
reserved lanes to save time with pretty flagrant disregard for
safety. Or they just like to intentionally aim for cyclists and
pedestrians for laughs. And the cycleways tend to be a congested and
unpredictable clog of pedestrians, bicycles, and dogs either off leash
or walking on the other side of the roadway from the person holding a
20-foot-long leash, clotheslining everything in their reach. It's an
NP-complete perfect storm of pitfalls. Meanwhile, less experienced
cyclists would feel safer or safe in any of those situations.
Meanwhile, there's very few streets in Tulsa, Dallas or Oklahoma City
I don't feel too out of place on and cycleways generally have
pedestrian facilities except in suburbs (mostly because the suburbs
don't have the traffic to warrant them yet and passing is a nonissue
save for the occasional rare blind curve, junction or hillcrest).
Roads like Bixby's Memorial Drive (US 64) or Oklahoma City's Portland
Avenue (OK 74), with their lack of shoulders, relatively high traffic
volumes, and total lack of even a "share the road" sign might not pose
substantial additional risk over a cycleway, mostly because the
drivers are mellow. However, the average American would look at that
and say, "Nope!"
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Stefan Keller <sfkel...@gmail.com
<mailto:sfkel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,
What about crowdsourcing dangerous bicycle locations using key/tag
hazard?
See http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/DE:Key:hazard
And see also https://twitter.com/sfkeller/status/574213951644368896
Yours, S.
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