W dniu 15.08.2015 13:50, Christoph Hormann napisał(a):

The suggestion of using landcover=trees is generally based on the idea
that both landuse=forest and natural=wood have a distinct meaning and
there are tree covered areas which are neither of these.  But in
reality this is not the case and due to the widespread use of these
tags it is likely this will never happen, it would require a systematic
re-assessment of millions of features.

In my opinion suggestion of using landcover=trees is based on the lack of clarity of these tags. Forest suggests it is curated somehow ("landuse"), wood suggests it is not ("natural"), but nobody is sure anymore what they really mean (see their current definitions!). This is a major problem when widespread tags are source of confusion.

However landcover=trees is not a solution for this problem as a whole. It is a generic tagging scheme which holds its position even if we have both major tags clearly defined, because it is for the mappers to tell "I don't know what kind of tree area is this exactly" and that's why it's really needed. I may even think, that if we have used it from the beginning, we wouldn't have the problem of forest/wood at all.

Generic values are important to be as precise as it's possible and prevent people from cheating (especially tagging for renderer). That's why building=yes is so popular and why we have natural=water.

I like Dave F. proposition of having cascading tag scheme for all the tree areas very much:

landuse/landcover=wood/trees
managed=yes/no

I hope one day we will have something this elegant. Choosing landuse would overload the meaning of this tag ("Land use is the human use of land.") in general, while landcover could be understatement in some cases, so maybe we should use natural (as in water), but let's not get distracted by such nuances in this moment.

The message is: it would be very good to have something general for tree areas and whether it would be based on landcover=trees or not, it is the most proper tag to use when in doubt.

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