On 27/08/2015 11:13, Maarten Deen wrote:
On 2015-08-27 11:21, Dave F. wrote:
On 26/08/2015 21:54, Andrew Hain wrote:
Dave F. <davefox <at> madasafish.com> writes:
Hi
Bearing in mind the wiki is used more often by new OSM
contributors &
therefore should be a clear & concise as possible, I'm curious why
this
icon is so
prevalent:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/thumb/5/5f/Osm_element_tag.sv
g/200px-Osm_element_tag.svg.png
There's no description of what it means or relates to. It refers
purely
to 'behind the scenes' business. New users are interested in that.
Even
if it were described, it would still be irrelevant as *all* tags
are
based on a key=value format.
The graphic is used when there isn’t a specific image to put in a
tag value infobox, with a k= graphic for key descriptions. A “No
image yet” graphic used to be used. The message is buried within the
{{description}} template. Although there are some pages that could
have pictures but don’t it doesn’t always make sense to have one.
If there's not a specific image, can't it just be ignored & start with
'description' or whatever?
The k=v icons are irrelevant to people who edit the map.
It is a placeholder image that probably the person making the first
page about a key/value combination made and got taken over in the
template and though that mechanism got so prominent in all tag pages.
Don't look for more behind it.
Unsure what you mean by that last comment.
I'm looking for either a valid reason to keep it & if there is none,
remove it.
Poor/lazy wiki page design doesn't seem a valid one.
Neither is giving irrelevant, baffling info to newbies. We're meant to
be encouraging people to join in, not turn them away.
BTW: why are there two k=v images in the wiki? Some reconstructing
leads to the wiki page of this image at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Osm_element_tag.svg
but there is also http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Mf_tag.svg
The Mf_tag.svg image is used in pages where the key-value system is
explained, so the image is not unnecessary as such.
But since Osm_element_tag.svg is more abundantly used, I propose to
change all occurences of Mf_tag.svg to Osm_element_tag.svg.
Maarten
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