That's great I suppose, but wouldn't using simple language in wikis be much easier?

Also, your page isn't linked from anywhere. which is half the point of hyperlinked wiki pages?

Dave F.


On 07/02/2016 15:24, Martijn van Exel wrote:

There is now a wiki page. I initially added the content of Roland's email.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attic_Data


On Sun, Feb 7, 2016, 3:02 AM malenki <o...@malenki.ch <mailto:o...@malenki.ch>> wrote:

    On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 22:06:32 +0000,
    Dave F wrote:

    > So often I'm put off from delving further into OSM & its uses by the
    > confusing nature of it's wiki pages.
    >
    > A simple example:
    >
    >
    
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/Overpass_QL#Attic_data_.28.22date.22.29
    >
    > Why is it headed as 'Attic Data'?

    Obviously because the developer named the feature "Attic Data".

    > Why is there no explanation of it's meaning? After too much time
    > using google I find it means old information. Why not say that?
    > Wouldn't 'historical snapshot' be a bit clearer?

    A year ago I would liked to have found an explanation of "Attic
    Data" too, since the average OSM user knows it from the OSM website as
    "history" or "chronic" (German). If the term "history" would at least
    have been placed near "Attic Data" I would have found it by full text
    searching the wiki page.
    I was unable to connect "OSM history" and "Attic Data", even with
    using
    search engines. I had to ask on IRC and as I was told I was
    looking for
    "Attic Data" I thought 'WTF! what a stupid name! Nobody ever will find
    that in the wiki'
    I've added an explanation by now; hopefully it will be considered
    helpful:
    
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Overpass_API/Overpass_QL&diff=1270275&oldid=1262567

    Why didn't you do it? :)

    > Please remember wiki/help pages are mainly read by inexperienced
    > users

    Define the "inexperienced user", please.

    I am nearly totally inexperienced in programming but even JOSM has
    a built-in interface to query the Overpass API.
    With overpass turbo and its wizard you need very little experience of
    whatsoever to create a successful query.

    >who aren't fully aware of all the latest hip language (that
    > often goes out of fashion 6 months later).

    Well, since this is a name of a feature of a wide- and heavily used
    tool I doubt that it is part of a fashion hipster language.

    > Please keep all wiki pages plain & simple.

    You can help doing this, too.

    hth
    Thomas


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