Hi all
I know the laim vision of OSM is to axhieve a good quality mapping ,  but i
want to say that i have been exploring uses more qualitative of the
Photomapping apps OSV and Mapillary , and these tools are extremely
powerful to document projects with an ethnographic dimension. View from the
subject,  every subject,  the child,  the person with wheelchair, the
elderly, the woman in public space, the prostitute, etc.
It is ablsolutely amazing and all these people is giving their view of tbe
world in a same database.

The point is, the name could take tbe word People
PeoplesView

Best

El mié., 9 de noviembre de 2016 9:16 AM, <talk-requ...@openstreetmap.org>
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> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2016 10:10:53 +0100
> From: Michał Brzozowski <www.ha...@gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change
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> How about StreetOpenView? ;)
> Streetscape sounds fine to me, too.
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> 08.11.2016 16:37 "Martijn van Exel" <m...@rtijn.org> napisał(a):
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> > Hi all,
> >
> > A few months ago, we started with OpenStreetView, the free and open
> street
> > level imagery project made 100% for OSM with apps for Android and iOS.
> > Since then, we not only have collected almost 300000 kilometers of
> > coverage, but also received a lot of attention from both you and the
> press.
> > This has also led to a friendly (for now) request by a well-known company
> > with a similarly-named product :) to not use the OpenStreetView name. So
> we
> > are looking for a new name. We have some ideas already but I wanted to
> ask
> > if you had any suggestions for a new name for OSV?
> >
> > Thanks for your support and happy capturing / mapping,
> >
> > Martijn + the OpenStreetView team
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> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2016 11:58:42 +0100
> From: Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch>
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> Streetscape is totally fine, if you just want to have the same problems
> again.
>
> Rough step by step guide to finding a workable product name:
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> - don't do it in public
>
> - don't use anything descriptive
>
> - google for the name
>
> - do an exhaustive trademark search (or rather let your fav IP counsel
> do it for you)
>
> - register the trademark in your target markets
>
> - register the domain names
>
> - launch the product
>
> Simon
>
> Am 09.11.2016 um 10:10 schrieb Michał Brzozowski:
> >
> > How about StreetOpenView? ;)
> > Streetscape sounds fine to me, too.
> >
> >
> > 08.11.2016 16:37 "Martijn van Exel" <m...@rtijn.org <mailto:m...@rtijn.org>>
> > napisał(a):
> >
> >     Hi all,
> >
> >     A few months ago, we started with OpenStreetView, the free and
> >     open street level imagery project made 100% for OSM with apps for
> >     Android and iOS. Since then, we not only have collected almost
> >     300000 kilometers of coverage, but also received a lot of
> >     attention from both you and the press. This has also led to a
> >     friendly (for now) request by a well-known company with a
> >     similarly-named product :) to not use the OpenStreetView name. So
> >     we are looking for a new name. We have some ideas already but I
> >     wanted to ask if you had any suggestions for a new name for OSV?
> >
> >     Thanks for your support and happy capturing / mapping,
> >
> >     Martijn + the OpenStreetView team
> >
> >
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> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2016 12:07:15 +0100
> From: Frank Villaro-Dixon <fr...@villaro-dixon.eu>
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> On 16-11-08 19:13:34, Joseph Reeves, wrote 3.9K characters saying:
> >How about just StreetScape?
>
> I would argue against this.
>
> To me, "OpenStreetView" sounds okay in non-english languages (Spanish,
> French, German), contrary to "StreetScape" which I imagine would be really
> strange for me to say to a Spanish person: "Existe también una
> alternativa: StreetScape"; they would look at me strangely.
>
> My two cents,
>
> Cheers
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> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2016 12:42:15 +0100
> From: Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com>
> To: Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch>
> Cc: osm <talk@openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Use policies update
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> 2016-11-06 0:25 GMT+01:00 Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch>:
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> > Historically using CC by-SA for the tiles had a certain logic, as the
> data
> > used that licence and while there was a cloud of uncertainty how that
> would
> > apply to OSM data, you could reasonably argue that the tiles were a
> > derivative and had to be licensed on the same terms.
> >
> > Post licence change that tight linkage has gone and the creator of a
> > "Produced Work" has a large degree of freedom in how to license their
> work.
> > It would, for example, be completely possible to take the CC0 licensed
> > openstreetmap-carto style sheet and produce -exactly- the same tiles as
> the
> > standard layer and license them differently.
> >
>
>
> I'm not sure it is like this. Just because the code to produce the work has
> a CC0 license attached to it does not necessarily mean that the resulting
> cartography is also free of rights. At least the copyright page at
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright clearly has a different claim on it
> (if deliberately or as result of oversight is not clear to me).
>
>
> > Or are we claiming that we are actually licensing the design/look and
> feel
> > of the standard tiles on CC by-SA terms (and by that have rights in any
> > derivatives of that style) and you can't actually use openstreetmap-carto
> > style sheet to produce a style that is visually similar to our standard
> > style?
> >
>
>
> that's what we seem to do right now, yes.
>
> Admittedly there is quite some probability that the current claim of
> cc-by-sa 2.0 cartography is not because the creators of this work had been
> requiring it (AFAIK originally Steve Chilton and his team, now Andy and all
> the other contributors to the style), as they have expressed consent / will
> to release the style in CC0.
>
> What we actually might want to achieve with the cc-by-sa on the tiles is
> that people who use tiles produced and distributed with our ressources will
> have to credit OSM for this and should not be able to restrict the further
> downstream distribution.
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
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