On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 11:53:03PM -0400, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > According to Martijn (of MapRoulette fame), there is no way a challenge can > link to object IDs. MapRoulette can only highlight location. Nor can I > provide a proposed fix, which means someone would have to manually find the > broken object, navigate to Wikipedia, copy/paste the title, and save the > object. I guesstimate 1 minute per object on average... that's nearly 700 > hours of community time - a huge waste of human brain power that could be > spent on a much more challenging and less automatable tasks.
We'd have 40.000 more recently reviewed objects in the database. Given how much the quality of the OSM data decays with time, I would consider that a welcome boost to overall quality. And my experience with the OSM community is that there are a lot of people who wouldn't consider such a task a waste of time but as a wonderful opportunity to relax in the evening. Maproulette has the advantage that you can just click away and do one object after the next. I would recommend to break the 40.000 objects into local batches of 1000 or 2000 and just load it into Maproulette. Add step-by-step isntructions how to fix the links and I'm sure you'll be surprised how quickly everything is done. Kind regards Sarah > > Osmose might be a good alternative, and might even lower the total number > of hours required, but still - would that significantly benefit the > project? These tags are just a tiny arbitrary subset of one million > wikipedia-tagged objects. Verifying just them by hand seems like a waste > of human intelligence. Instead, we can run queries to produce knowingly bad > objects and let community fix those. I hope we can let machines do mindless > tasks, and let humans do decision making. This would improve contributors > morale, instead of making them feel like robots :) > > Clarifying: the OSM objects already point to those pages via redirect. The > redirect information is only stored in Wikipedia. > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 11:18 PM, Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > or via Osmose ? > > > > On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 5:16 AM, Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > what about a Maproulette task ? > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 5:11 AM, Yuri Astrakhan <yuriastrak...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >> At the moment, there are nearly 40,000 OSM objects whose wikipedia tag > > does > > >> not match their wikidata tag. Most of them are Wikipedia redirects, > > whose > > >> target is the right wikipedia article. If we are not ready to abandon > > >> wikipedia tags just yet (I don't think we should ATM), I think we > > should fix > > >> them. Fixing them by hand seems like a huge waste of the community > > time, > > >> when it can be semi-automated. > > >> > > >> I propose that a small program, possibly a plugin to JOSM, would change > > >> wikipedia tags to point to the target article instead of the redirect. > > >> > > >> Thoughts? > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> talk mailing list > > >> talk@openstreetmap.org > > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk