Hi, On 17.10.2017 10:32, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > The thing is - we have been discussing hypothetical issues so far, not > the real ones.
Users have been blocked and edits reverted for indiscriminately applying JOSM's autofixer to large swaths of data. But those who do that are usually aware that they are mis-using the feature, which is meant to support you in mapping an area. The usual workflow is that you open JOSM, choose an area to edit, and then use available material and knowledge to improve the map in that area. It is not "some query directs you to a random area, you open the editor and click the fix button just as someone else has told you to". > some hypothetical individual might not pay attention and go > clicking trigger happy -- in other words we don't trust our users to be > diligent. This is not a faithful argument. You have said, multiple times, that you consider the diligence we ask of people a waste of time because certain tasks could just as well be done by the computer. You have written a tool that will, at least as currently presented, lower the diligence standard. > And that's the fundamental problem - we are worried about things that > might happen, at the expense of ignoring significant number of existing > data issues. You are personally responsible for quite a few of these existing data issues. -- Yes there are many bugs in OSM and there are many tools that help find and fix them. Most fixes are not "quick", they require manual intervention, switching on your brain, and usually knowledge of the place or at the very least knowledge of the culture where the edit happens. It appears to me that after the myriad of emails that have been sent to you over the last half year, you still haven't understood that. Initially I thought you simply needed some time to "get" OSM, but now I am convinced that you don't really want to understand. You believe that you are right and everyone else should finally admit that. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
