Hello I think we should settle the question of how "ground truth" or "verifiability" applies to NON-PHYSICAL objects (it is clear with physical objects). Because currently I see at least two opinions:
1. Non-physical objects are mapped by observing/verifying their REFLECTION in physical world. 2. Non-physical objects are mapped by observing/verifying them DIRECTLY where they originate and live - in non-physical world - ~documents. It is very demotivating to hear the argument that "opinion X is your personal opinion, but (my) opinion Y is how OpenStreetMap works" without any evidence. Especially by people with not too much actual mapping/usage experience (say < 100000 objects done, no application/map created etc.). And without thinking about the impact of it. Opinion 1 would mean that we should remove all(most?) non-physical objects: country, state, county, city, suburb, national/regional park boundaries (and a lot more) as most of that is unobservable on the ground and sometimes reflection of small part of them on the ground is misleading/outdated. Opinion 2 would mean that objects are mapped according to originating documents. De facto situation is that almost all non-physical objects are currently mapped according to documents. Which opinion is chosen has a huge impact on both participation and usage of OpenStreetMap. Decision would be able to remove this burden from OSMF which by definition should not be deciding on such matters. P.S. Wiki while not being authoritative talks about PHYSICAL objects. P.P.S. Let's skip non-physical attributes for the beginning. -- Tomas _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk