I can give an example of this going horribly wrong: http://www.osmcanada.ca redirects to https://www.osmcanada.ca
but I specifically disabled https on http://tasks.osmcanada.ca (hosted on same server) because josm doesnt play nice with https task manager Web admins will redirect their traffic if it needs to be. We shouldn't force https, worst case port 80 will redirect to 443 via http header. Semi-worst case they have HSTS header that tells browser to connect to 443 until xyz(far in future) and best case web admin registered on hsts preload list, so modern browsers will do their job. On Tue., Feb. 26, 2019, 9:39 a.m. Bryce Jasmer, <br...@jasmer.com> wrote: > The HSTS discussion is completely orthogonal to what the stated goal is > and any further discussion on it is really just muddying the waters. HSTS > comes into play after the user is already visiting over https. > > If I’m mistaken, please help me understand. > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 6:30 AM Rory McCann <r...@technomancy.org> wrote: > >> On 26/02/2019 14:45, Joseph Reeves wrote: >> > As an aside, HSTS is interesting here because the website operator is >> > saying "only use this domain over https", but at that point, we don't >> > need to make changes to the database because the web client should be >> > aware of the HSTS preload list; the protocol listed in the referrer >> > is not relevant. >> >> I don't think we can rely totally on HSTS. I'm sure not all sites are on >> HSTS preload lists. I think OSM has more "website=http://*"; tags (965k)¹ >> than Firefox² & Chrome³ have in their HSTS preload lists... >> >> [1] https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/website#values >> >> [2] >> >> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Strict-Transport-Security#Preloading_Strict_Transport_Security >> >> https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/raw-file/tip/security/manager/ssl/nsSTSPreloadList.inc >> >> [3] >> https://www.chromium.org/hsts >> >> https://cs.chromium.org/codesearch/f/chromium/src/net/http/transport_security_state_static.json?cl=5b2537d89ea5994d27bba5735961b0be1095c54c >> >> _______________________________________________ >> talk mailing list >> talk@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >> > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >
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