i share the thoughts and concerns shared by Christoph. It's not
surprisingly that most of these companies are "tied" or are
client/service providers of each other, some are even Corporate members
of OSMF. Who would bite the hand the feeds?
Blaming third party media outlets, when Facebook article title is "AI is
supercharging the creation of maps around the world" says a lot. What
maps? Bit of misleading title oh well, not clear enough. #options
Also the video they have on the article shows in the end the
attribution. Funnily uploaded on Vimeo, that regarding this
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2019-July/082927.html
replied me yesterday mentioning they are having an investigation between
their engineers and their legal department to add the attribution on the
map on their LiveStream platform.... hope it does not take as long as
the steam engine speed legal dept of facebook that still hasn't figured
out since October what to do about the attribution as when they replied
to me in October 2018, as reported here
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2019-June/082702.html
For a *tv, film or video production*, the attribution should typically
appear in a corner of the map. *As long as the credit is on screen
long enough to be read*, it does not have to remain in view during
panning or zooming. For productions with end credits, *we would also
welcome a credit there*
from
https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Licence_and_Legal_FAQ#Where_to_put_it.3F
Às 09:34 de 26/07/2019, Christoph Hormann escreveu:
On Friday 26 July 2019, Frederik Ramm wrote:
This is probably normal for corporate PR people, but for me it's just
disgusting.
And in that conflict in my eyes you can see the core of the problem.
The corporate appropriation of OpenStreetMap and the OSM community has
meanwhile all the characteristics of a cult. You can see in the
reactions of corporate representatives here - as well as in other cases
where corporate PR misrepresenting OSM is presented, see for example
the comments to the Facebook diary entry that has been linked to or in
the discussion with the Thailand community, that many of them are so
detached from the reality of the hobby mapper community and
non-corporate data users that functional communication is essentially
not possible any more.
I have no solution for this - at least none that works within OSM alone.
But i have strong doubts meanwhile that arguing with people who are
fully immersed into the belief system of corporate PR regarding OSM is
of benefit in most cases. This in itself is a pretty frightening
realization.
There is a famous saying (not sure of its origin) - that fits pretty
well here: It is hard to make people understand something if their
livelihood depends on not understanding it.
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