> 3. (b) should be rendered on openstreetmap.org with its English name (both > are independent of each other).
The place to discuss that particular question is: http://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues In particular: Request to render Oceans/Seas: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/2278 Related to Bays/Straits: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/3634 Joseph Eisenberg On 1/13/20, Frederik Ramm <frede...@remote.org> wrote: > Hi, > > so we've heard a broad range of opinions here, and no doubt many things > have been said that will with pleasure be pulled out of context in years > to come, proving how unwelcoming OSM is to anyone who doesn't submit to > the diktat of English. > > I would like to stress: > > 1. You do not need English for normal everyday participation in > OpenStreetMap. Our website and editors are translated into dozens of > languages, and regionally you can do your mapping in your language > without having to discuss with anyone from another country or continent. > In fact, if you are local to a place, your local knowledge will trump > that of overseas English-speakers in 10 of 10 cases. > > 2. By nature, once things require agreement between different groups > speaking different languages, a pragmatic solution needs to be found > that allows people from these groups to communicate. By default, this > will be English; though if the involved parties agree to use a different > language that's just fine. > > 3. It is a valid question whether something like a body of water > bordered by 5 countries, none of which uses English, (a) should have a > name tag with an English name in it, and (b) should be rendered on > openstreetmap.org with its English name (both are independent of each > other). > > 4. This is not a matter that should be driven by zealotry; we need to be > pragmatic here. If a decision is made to change something, it might make > sense to decide on "phasing something out" and "phasing something else > in", or decide to make a change at a later date, so that map style > makers etc. could prepare adequately. > > 5. The usual language on this list is English. If you cannot use English > but want to make an important point, post in your language and we'll > make an effort to understand, or those who share your language will > translate. If you *can* use English but don't use it because you want to > make the point that the reliance on English is giving an unfair > advantage to those who can use English - your point is taken, but see #1... > > Bye > Frederik > > -- > Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk