On Wednesday 16 September 2020, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > simple: Individual humans as well as their activities and social > > interactions between individual humans - including permanent > > physical manifestations of those - are not as such part of the > > verifiable geography we intend to record. > > +0.9, I'd make it more precise: "private activities and private > social interactions"
No, public activities of individual humans are not as such part of the verifiable geography either. If my neighbor takes their dog for a walk on a certain route every day that is a public activity - yet does not belong in OSM. > > The private swimming pool and the private driveway become part of > > the verifiable geography because members of society on a larger > > scale (i.e. not just the personal social environment of the owner) > > interact with them on a routine basis. > > I'd question this. Noone has to show their private swimming pool or > driveway to anybody, clearly not on a "larger scale". (I am still for > mapping private swimming pools, and driveways, as long as we do not > associate an individual with it, it has nothing to do with privacy.) > > > In those cases mostly visually - but that can > > be sufficient. > > mostly you can't see private swimming pools from the street, and > according to the area, you also might not be able to see the > driveway. We might have different ideas of what a driveway is but a private driveway as i imagine it is part of the verifiable geography among other things because you have to take notice of cars coming out of private driveways as you drive along a public road. In other words: The driveway becomes part of the verifiable geography by being used as a driveway. For swimming pools that is certainly a matter of size - large swimming pools are however major constructions and major users of water supplies as well as reservoirs of water - to be used for example by firefighters in an emergency. That is where i would see the interaction on a larger scale. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
