Michael wrote: "If the frame is weak, she can't track the center."
I just wanted to clarify ... if you go to the extreme of providing no frame for your follower, here is what happens: 1. She follows the best that she can. 2. You become acutely aware of where she is, how she is following, her timing, and a lot more. Your dance become about a myriad of small communications. It is a beautiful awareness. Now, add just enough frame to correct for the places where the connection broke down and ... well, see for yourself! I can tell you that I will never go back to leading with a strong frame, except for during the occassional move that warrants it. --- Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You are correct that your frame doesn't move the > woman. She has to move herself. HOWEVER, your > frame's direction indicates the direction she should > move and the distance your frame moves indicates how > much she should move. > > An alternative explanation is if the leader's center > moves 18 inches to the left, she should move 18 > inches to the right. The leader's frame is supposed > to keep her in the center. She should follow the > leader's center. If the frame is weak, she can't > track the center. She won't move 18 inches because > she can't feel 18 inches of movement unless the man > sweeps her like a broom and forces her to move 18 > inches to her right. > > Michael > I'd rather be dancing Argentine Tango > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tango For Her > To: Michael ; tango-l@mit.edu > Cc: Michael > Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 9:44 PM > Subject: Re: [Tango-L] The Suggested Lead > > > On the contrary, I believe that the lead comes > from our centers. My frame is to let her know that > I am there for her / with her. My frame is not to > move her. > > If she misread my lead, then, it is my belief that > I lost my concentration. Next time, I will correct > for it, show my intention a little stronger, with > just my body movement and we'll see what happens. > > However, I could respond in a different way. If > you mean that she should have felt my right arm, > with a strong frame, then, if her body reacts to it, > correctly, then, we will both move the correct > distance. However, if she felt it and, still didn't > move the full distance, I would prefer to follow her > to the completion of her step. > > Thanks for the response! > > Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > TFH: > Sounds like to me the leader has a weak frame. > If the man's frame moves 18 inches to the left, the > woman should move 18 inches to her right. > Regardless, you are correct that the man shouldn't > move beyond the woman. > > Michael > Washington, DC > I'd rather be dancing Argentine Tango > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tango For Her" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 9:18 PM > Subject: [Tango-L] The Suggested Lead > > > I am sure that someone is going to respond with > a version of this that doesn't use the word > "suggest", but has the same effect. In that case, we > are all intending the same thing, but, we use > different language. Live and let live ... > > > A SUGGESTED LEAD > > The leader suggests a side step about 18 inches > in length. > The follower misreads the suggestion and steps > 12 inches in length. > The leader follows the follower 12 inches. > When the step is completed, the follower is > balanced. > > > THE NON-SUGGESTED LEAD > > The leader leads and steps to 18 inches. > The follower misreads the lead and steps 12 > inches. > When the step is completed, the follower is > thrown off balance. > Whoops! > > > THE EXERCISE FOR NEW LEADERS > > The leader leads a step to his left. > The follower moves her right foot, first. > Once the follower's foot has moved outside of > the leader's left foot, > the outside of the leader's left foot is not to > go past the inside of the follower's foot > until she sets her foot down. > > Difficult, at first. But, once he gets it, he > will step before his follower less often. > > <-- x follower's right foot. > <-- x leader's left foot. > > Let me say it, again, this way: > While their feet are moving, > the outside of the leader's left foot is in line > with the inside of the follower's right foot. > Thus, he cannot move ahead of her. > > > _______________________________________________ > Tango-L mailing list > Tango-L@mit.edu > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ _______________________________________________ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l