There is already a trails:ObjectForm component that is
not tied to Spring or Hibernate.  It gets passed a
Descriptor object as a parameter which represents
information about a POJO.  

How about we avoid writing this yet again... ;)

--- "Brian K. Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> Leonardo Quijano Vincenzi wrote:
> > Jesse, those where 3 ideas, not 2 :P.
> > But anyway...
> > 
> > 1) As far as I understood, this translator stuff
> is to make Tapestry
> > more autobinding capable. Since most of my forms
> deal with "foo.bar"
> > expressions (some object and a property inside of
> that object), as long
> > as autowiring supports that, I'm happy.
> > 2) This is for the performance concerned guys ;).
> Needed, though.
> > 
> > 3)
> >
> Yet-another-Hibernate-Tapestry-Integration-Project?
> Really, why don't
> > people just use Spring? Unless someone comes up
> with a Seam equivalent
> > for Tapestry, I don't understand exactly what's
> the purpose of this.
> > 
> > That said, I do have some
> Hibernate-Spring-Tapestry stuff I could
> > eventually contribute, dealing with long sessions
> (which are needed for
> > *everything* in Hibernate.... what a waste of
> resources..).
> > 
> > My 2 desired things:
> > 4) A janitorial project / section / component /
> whatever. Yeah, I know
> > it's not as sexy. But really... it's needed.
> It's the "what's needed" from a user's point of view
> that interests me.
> I don't need pretty. I just need fewer questions to
> be answered. :-)
> (not that I don't want pretty, just that Tapestry
> already does so much
> that either a) isn't quite there for "less than
> edge" cases or b) isn't
> documented - or not as easy to find. [more an
> agreement on #4 than a
> documentation push there :-)]
> 
> > 5) DHTML subproject... not only Ajax but also
> simpler effects, including
> > validation, enabling / disabling components, etc..
> I wrote about this
> > some time ago.
> > 
> > In any case, I'm getting worried that the focus is
> losing in this
> > development. I wonder, why don't we focus all
> resources into removing
> > the rewind cycle, or eliminating abstract classes,
> or some of the other
> > stuff Howard said he would like for Tap 4.1 / 5 ?
> There are quite a few things that were talked about
> - first for 3.1/4.0,
> now 4.1/5.0 that get left behind with evolution. I'd
> like to propose
> (yeah, I did this before :-)) a roadmap with issues
> assigned to achieve
> the goals set out in it. There will be bugs, but for
> X.0/X.1/X.2/etc
> releases there should be some sort of "written in
> jello" features. If it
> takes brain dumping all itemized features, then
> splitting them off into
> releases, maybe we can continue to get those done
> while new things are
> being dreamed up.
> > 
> > Or else we'll end up with a 3 year development
> cycle...
> > 
> NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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