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Interesting post, which I agree with. I have had the same exact experiences 
with Tapestry in terms of discovering it, and then learning more about it. 
It's actually the reason I have decided to contribute to the documentation.

Also, I am very, very interested in contributing these exact types of 
components back to the project. It's things like these that I think will 
place the icing on the cake, so to speak, with regard to this framework. 

In terms of convicing people that Tapestry is a viable alternative to 
framework X; being able to examine it, see that it does provide an elegant 
solution, but that it ALSO provides most common building blocks cannot be 
underestimated.  If tapestry had the docs + nav / tree components, my 
personal view would have been sealed as I read through the contents page!

I'm not necessarily sure that the components have to be Howards responsibility 
however. I think that it would not take many Tapestry developers (I dunno, 
I'm guessing about 4? surely that cannot be hard to organise?) very long at 
*all* to create these, and contribute them back. I for one would certainly be 
up for helping!  (Completing the Tutorial documentation will come first for 
me however)


Neil


On Wednesday 28 Aug 2002 8:44 pm, Peter A. Cassetta wrote:
> This is my first post, and I'll keep it brief.
>
> First of all, congratulations to Geoff. I have 4 kids (with one on the
> way). I hope you have as much fun as I have these last 7 years with the
> kids. We don't go out to movies or out to eat anymore, but we have a blast.
>
> I've been evaluating Web frameworks for an upcoming project. Tapestry is
> the most elegant (and amazing) one I've come across. On this particular
> project, JSP is really required for the view so I can't go with Tapestry.
> For now I'll just keep it in mind until another project comes along.
>
> Mostly I want to concur with everything Malcolm Edgar said. The learning
> curve for Tapestry is significant, so the work in progress on
> documentation/tutorials will be key.
>
> Second, I was surprised there are not more high-level components available
> for Tapestry. I don't think this is Howard's responsibility. Anybody really
> using the framework will probably be developing navbars, hierarchical tree
> views, calendar/date controls, etc. Let's hope some folks begin
> contributing these items back to Tapestry. A rich set of solid,
> browser-neutral components would fill the only real gap in the framework.
> In fact, a nice set of high-level components that works well across all
> browsers is hard to find anywhere today. I've played with various ones, and
> they all have their drawbacks. Tapestry would be an irresistable tool with
> a stronger set of UI components.
>
> Keep up the great work everyone.
>
> Pete Cassetta
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