Personally, I'm very careful about using tools, because they are :
- one more thing one has to learn to use
- one more thing that can have bugs
- one more thing that has to be sinchronized with underlying library/framework, so sometimes you end up waiting for new tool release just to be able to finally use this new releease of that library (for eg, I haven't used JDK1.5 untill there was proper support in form of IDEA5.0, or Eclipse 3.1)

-Vjeran

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tapestry users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: Back to Tapestry after an Year


<Beating a dead thread department :-)>
I feel the same way about heavy-UI tools. They hide too much of what's going on for my tastes. I live in an emacs-ish editor most of my day. (I confess
to using Eclipse once every month or two for debugging.)

The cayenne modeller is more like the car's electric starter.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Konstantin Ignatyev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: Back to Tapestry after an Year


I did not used Cayene and said about 'emphasis on
Modeller' because every Cayene proponent puts Modeller
first in the list of cool things about it.
Being in IT long enough makes me very skeptical about
UI 'heavy' things ( VB IDE and VB as a language,
Windows OS)

>Kind of like saying, this car comes with wheels
> which is exactly why I will NOT buy it.

Not at all, I was saying: all the salesmans scream and
praise Stereo in the car and exterior trim - hmm,
probably engine sucks: underpowered and does not last
long.

According to Bryan it is not the case, but that is my
reaction anyway.
But if Modeller to be "wheels" of Cayene then I would
expect big troubles down the road for Cayene users.

PS: I love tools, just do not trust them at all.



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