> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cosmin Bucur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 9:32 AM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Re: Learning Tapestry
>
> On 12/16/05, Patrick Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > What's wrong with something being eclipse oriented?
> What's so bad about .net running only on Windows ?
> Regarles of this argument though , the tutorials don't seem to lean
> too much on eclipse closing doors for anybody else that doesn't use
> eclipse , so in this one case it's all good
>
By that logic though, we shouldn't use Tapestry at all; it only runs
inside a JVM :). Seriously, if you make a tutorial so general that it never
*specifically* tells you, for example, how to set a JVM parameter in your
tomcat debug session, then the tutorial isn't going to be all that useful
for beginners.
I bet (and this is pure speculation) that if I took 20 first year
java programmers with a mix of web and not web experiences, and told them
"Set up a tomcat instance that starts with this JVM setting:
org.tapestry.disble.caching=false"; you have 20 minutes. Less than half of
them could get it done in that time period.
So it seems to me, better to say what you're doing "we're setting up
a JVM parameter", and then show *how* to do it in the world's most common
java IDE. If you're not on eclipse, me showing you how it's done in eclipse
leaves you no worse off than if I hadn't bothered, and if you are on eclipse
(as I suspect the majority of Tapestry Users are), I just made your life
easier.
--- Pat
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