Well, that's one of my goals, to help make Trails less "magical."  It does
do some pretty cool stuff behind the scenes and I feel your pain.  I just
recently joined the project and it has taken me quite a while to understand
how it all works.  I don't even understand it all yet.  I'm currently trying
to figure out how to make it more intuitive (it does have my EntitySqueezer
implementation in it, though). 

-----Original Message-----
From: Andreas Bulling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Andreas Bulling
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 11:07 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Best practice - Integration Hibernate/Tapestry

On 20. Feb 2006 - 10:53:22, James Carman wrote:
| Have you checked out the Trails framework (https://trails.dev.java.net/)?
| I'm also a committer on that project and it's a good way for you to
| jump-start your way into Tapestry, Spring, Hibernate, and I'm trying to
get
| them to use HiveMind more (they like to use AspectJ a lot and that's one
| reason they're sticking with Spring).

Yeah, I also looked at Trails and read the two java.net articles.
But I read somewhere that only a part of Tapestry's components
is supported/implemented and for my taste Trails was doing a little bit
too much magic with less possibility to look behind the scenes
(after a very short look at it).

Perhaps I should look at it a second time if I can't get Spring to
work here... *sigh*

Sincerly,
  Andreas

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