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Hi John,
On 06 February 2001 at 05:52:48 +1100 (which was 18:52 where I live)
John Phillips wrote and made these points:
I've moved this conversation to TBTECH. It has spent a lot of time and
bandwidth on TBUDL and needs to move aside.
Important disclaimer: This next part is Marck the Software Engineer,
not Marck the Moderator. Okay?
JP> Personally I do. I have no problems with the way Agent threads,
JP> and IMHO is much more useful than Bat! Gravity News Reader also
JP> threads this way, and if the Bat! developers have time, they may
JP> wish to look to Gravity re keeping topics in the correct threads.
JP> Even if someone changes a topic in reply (just to be clever, for
JP> example), Gravity still threads correctly.
The problem with this idea is that you are mixing your metaphors.
Gravity and Agent thread in the usenet universe. In that world, *all*
messages have References headers. It's easy. Topics are grouped
because of MessageId relationships regardless of the text of the
"Subject". TB threads *exactly* as well as they do in TBUDL or TBBETA
(until someone butts in with Pegasus or Eudora). It's only when you
have such messages that have no In-Reply-To or References headers that
threading falls down.
You see, the problem is much stickier for TB than for Agent or Gravity
so saying "making do it like they do" is not exactly constructive.
Sure, it's an ideal. But it's one that can't be made as reliable as
would be wanted by everyone.
The *single* improvement that *could* be made is to combine methods 1
& 2 so we have a hierarchical progression of 1) References, 2)
In-Reply-To and 3) Subject text threading all in one.
To alleviate the column list problems, the best suggestion made to
date is to adopt the way Agent does it, which is only to show the
subject text of the first message in the thread and to only show the
connecting lines in the child messages.
There is still the issue of horizontal real estate when a thread gets
too deep and how to best manage representing that. You know, I'd
rather see the column start to stretch and eventually cause a
horizontal scroll when that becomes too wide. Yes, I know it's the
root of the main complaint but, it's a better way than splitting the
thread IMHO. Sorry.
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Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH
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