Hello Alexander, 

I haven't been following this thread, so please forgive me if I missed
something.

I remember back when I first set up TBUDL using TB, and RITLabs was
hooking me up with a new binary just about every other day to correct
problems I had when setting up the list under TB. One thing I
discovered was that some SMTP and some POP3 servers strip the
Return-Path from messages.

For those long time members, you'll remember getting bounce messages
that included everyone's e-mail address whenever a list post bounced
from a subscriber. It was shortly after that when RITLabs included the
Return-Path header to fix my problem.

However, it still wasn't working and we came to discover that my SMTP
server was stripping them. I changed SMTP servers, and still had
problems. I then also changed my POP3 server and had no problems after
that. 

I noticed you were using 1.41 (final), and I've got some test messages
I had done in HTML from 1.41 beta3. All of them included the
correct Return-Path header.

I also just sent and received a cpl of test messages under 1.42 beta
3, and both of them retained the correct RETURN-PATH statement.

I'm still not sure why you're losing them. It might have something to
do with being the very first header. Maybe it gets stripped off when
it is the first header by your gateway.


On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 at 00:08:36 [GMT +0300], you wrote:
AVK> Now an interesting question is: why in the Outbox there _exists_
AVK> the Return- Path: header, _but_ it's stripped out by TB itself
AVK> when the message is actually sent. One might assume that this
AVK> header is treated by TB as a temporary one: TB might use it to
AVK> determine, on behalf of which address the message is to be sent
AVK> during the SMTP session, that is, what address should be used by
AVK> the program as an argument to the MAIL FROM command.

AVK> Another thing, BTW. I do _not_ see the Return-Path: header when
AVK> examining the RFC822 headers of your messages to TBUDL, Michael.
AVK> If TB sent the messages _with_ this header, how and when could it
AVK> perrish?

AVK> Okay, all this is an assumption only. I'd sure wish to hear any
AVK> other explanation of my experiments, if there exists one;-)





Leif Gregory 

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