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Hello Rémi, On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 at 12:30:25 [GMT +0200], you wrote: RP> One more reason for the free caret to go. Ask normal e-mail users RP> out there (i.e. not militant batters) what they would prefer and RP> you'll see. Ask any Linux people and see how many use the free caret type editors. To be honest, I do almost all of my text writing and editing in The Bat because of free caret. I very rarely need proportional fonts, colors, bolding, or the other various sundries present in Word or Outlook. RP> First, who needs tables in an e-mail? Second, if you really need RP> to create a table (once in a blue moon) you can use the spacebar. RP> Third, you can be almost certain that a table created with TB will RP> look awful to the recipient since 90% of all e-mail users have RP> e-mail clients that use proportional fonts. That was my point and RP> you have no answer to that. I use tables quite a bit in my PCWize E-zine, which is a plaintext newsletter sent out weekly. Mainly I use the tables to compare feature sets of software I've reviewed. I agree that most users of the "other" e-mail MUAs are using proportional fonts, so that's why I placed the below text in every newsletter for the last few years. If the columns in the below articles appear misaligned, it's because you are using a non-fixed width font. If you would like to see them as written, please change your e-mail font to Courier New. I once proposed an HTML format of my newsletter, and while there were quite a few that liked that idea, the majority were adamant in requesting that if I were to do so, that I continue publishing the plaintext version as well. These weren't die-hard batters either. RP> The point is that if you turn off the auto-format feature you have RP> to hit Alt-L all the time to reformat manually. I personally use the ALT-L convention exclusively, because it gives me the choice of what I want wrapped and what I don't. Code being an example of something I don't want to wrap, as well as long URLs. The idea behind e-mail is to quote what's necessary, not quoting RP> The only differences I see between 1.53d and the 1.54 series are RP> giimmicks and obscure features and shortcuts that no-one needs in real RP> life. - - - New interface to the filtering system. - - - Boatloads of repairs to the HTML engine - - - Mailing list support from the menu to subscribe, unsubscribe etc. RFC-2369 - - - Alternative address selection from an address book contact with multiple addresses. - - - Ability to add root certificates - - - Create common folders outside of accounts - - - Drag and drop attachments FROM a message - - - More URL types recognized (telnet, news, gopher, file) - - - It's written in Delphi 6 (closer to a Linux port) These are just the ones I know many people can and will use. RP> TB will never become a serious alternative to major e-mail clients RP> if its developpers don't look at what people need in the *real RP> world*, as opposed to a dedicated "fan club", which is what this RP> mailing list sometimes appears to be. TB's editor is the only one RP> of its kind. Can it be that TB is right and all the others wrong? RP> Highly unlikely. The majority of that has to do with perception. I was originally a little disappointed with the interface when I moved from Eudora (eons ago), but after tinkering with the capabilities, it was plain as day that TB blew Eudora out of the water. What's next? A skinnable TB? Media player already went that way, and I'd imagine Outlook / OE will eventually too. People seem to attach more value to eye-candy than whether something performs well and is robust. That's why Linux users are so die hard too. It works, and it works extremely well. The functionality was in place long before all the GUI eye-candy came along. I hope TB follows the same path. I'd rather have a robust MUA than a pretty one. Cheers, Leif Gregory - - -- List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) PCWize Editor / ICQ 216395 / PGP Key ID 0x7CD4926F Web Site <http://www.PCWize.com> TB FAQ <http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/FAQ.html> Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/15 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 256MB. Tagline of the day: We are NOT surrounded. We're just in a target-rich environment. - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPA+q748+1rl81JJvEQIRtQCbBNujlX1Xe0GfCrbS0FuEgykaAZUAn2RH O2OZDdV895Nx7NQvN+Nb30C4 =LC+H - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPA+rC48+1rl81JJvEQKmPgCfUt8H8pXgqdlpcIMLS0oersMGiQoAn2uq tKyavY6fcChscVU53CO+Lfnu =UNAc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ________________________________________________________ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ : http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com