Hello Stuart,

On Thursday, February 14, 2002 at 6:27:55 PM you wrote in
msgid:5.1.0.14.2.20020214121359.009fa530@pop (at least in part):

SB> My ISP, rogers.com, when they took over from @home, implemented an SMTP
SB> authenticated server, which even their tech support people don't know what 
SB> type of authentication is actually used.

Plain-Text LOGIN-authentication.

SB> A log of an exchange with Eudora, which works quite happily, btw, produces 
SB> the following login exchange ...

SB> Rcvd: "250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN\r\n"
Seems the server supports _only_ Plain-Text authentication!
No CRAM, nor CRAM-MD5
[...]
SB> Sent: "AUTH LOGIN\r\n"
SB> Rcvd: "334 VXNlcm5hbWU6\r\n"
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is the string "Username:" Base64 encoded, nothing more :-)

SB> Sent: "c2J<snip about 20 chars>jb20=\r\n"
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is your Username sent by Eudora, Base64-encoded too.

SB> Rcvd: "334 UGFzc3dvcmQ6\r\n"
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is the string "Password:" Base64-encoded.

SB> Sent: "dm<snip about 10 chars>cg==\r\n"
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is your password, and gee .. it's Base64-encoded too :-)

SB> Snipped chars appear like encrypted random chars.

Hope my explanation cleared it ain't 'encrypted' :-)
Only 'encoded' :-)

SB> Now, I've assumed this to be a CRAM MD-5 authentication.

No ... it _is_ plain text ...

SB> but I cannot get The Bat! to authenticate.

Activate only 'Perform SMTP Authentication (RFC 2554)',
_NOT_ 'Require secure (MD5) authentication'
and it should work.

If not: could you please send a network dump as made for the 'Eudora'
communication for 'The Bat!' too, so we might see what actions
_exactly_ are taken and which not.
-- 
Regards
Peter Palmreuther                            mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(The Bat! v1.54 Beta/39 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2)

<*singing*> I hate you. Where's a tree? Let's all go and hang Barney!


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