Hi Allie, 
On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 22:26:25 [GMT -0500] (04:26 where I live) you wrote:



ACM> I don't see the difference in the amount of clairvoyance required for
ACM> either forms of quoting.

ACM> Please note that you're a member of a moderated discussion list with
ACM> rules based on what makes most of the membership comfortable with
ACM> posts and their content. One of them is formatting. We don't encourage
ACM> top or bottom replying here since most here do not like it. You should
ACM> post in a format that most of your recipients will prefer.


>From http://www.river.com/users/share/etiquette/

Post In-line for Context
(up to table of contents)

When  you quote, you're doing it to provide context. Requiring your readers to
scroll  down and then back, repeatedly (as they attempt to figure out what the
heck  you're  talking  about),  is  a rather difficult way for you to make the
context available. Providing the context up-front will get you better results.

It  is  far easier for your recipients to follow the ongoing conversation in a
message that uses quotes in-line like this:

         > Quote (pruned properly)

         Your response

         > Quote of another point (pruned properly)

         Your  response  to  the  second  point

than  it  is for your readers to follow along if you use top-posting like this
(thanks to Adam Brower by way of Patricia Shaffer):

         Oh! Now it makes sense to me. Okay! No more
         top-posting for me!

         > It's annoying because it reverses the normal
         > order of conversation. In fact, many people
         > ignore top-posted messages.
         
         > > What's so wrong with that?
         
         > > > That's posting your response before
         > > > the message you're quoting.
         
         > > > > People keep bugging me about
         > > > > "top-posting." What does that mean?

or as in this touching example (from Clifton Sharp):

         "I'll see you at Linda's wedding."
         "Well, see ya soon."
         "Congratulations!"
         "Ten thousand a year."
         "How much?"
         "Got a really big raise this time."
         "Sorry to hear it. How's the job?"
         "She's not feeling well. Flu, I think."
         "Same as ever. How's yours?"
         "How's your wife?"
         "They painted her purple. They should call her the Prune Fart now."
         "Good. Did you hear what Martin and Sheila did to the Sea Breeze?"
         "Good, and you?"
         "Bill! How the heck are you?"

Top-posting  makes  your  message incomprehensible to many of your readers. In
normal conversation, after all, you don't answer to something that has not yet
been  said. Replying at the top confuses your readers, making any point you're
trying  to  get  across  very  unclear  without  them  scrolling down and back
repeatedly,  searching to re-integrate context. That extra, wholly unnecessary
work  leads to reader irritation, or worse, to readers just not bothering with
your words at all.

Since  your  object is to get your message across, help your readers follow by
placing  your  words  in  context,  not prior to the context. Doing otherwise,
forcing  your readers to go to extra work unnecessarily, is usually considered
insulting. Delivering your words in an insulting manner certainly doesn't help
your case. Instead, post in-line to preserve context and respect your readers.



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