Hi r0ller,

A couple of weeks ago I also run to the issue when I found lack of fallocate or 
POSIX_FALLOCATE(2) (to be precise) a little bit sad.
From the very first view typical usage of POSIX_FALLOCATE(2) seems straight 
forward, comparing to the Linux fallocate(2) where different modes have to be 
supported. However, things can go a little bit more complicated if you are 
dealing with an existing file with a more complex structure.
Because of that, I found difficult to provide good quality implementation 
without a proper way to test it.
Before EuroBSD 2019 as a part of work about fuzzing the FFS, I decided to bring 
some well known FS test (namely speaking "XFS tests') suit to make sure that 
bugs that we fix did not introduce a regression.
The same thing applies to the new features of FS, is relatively easy to port 
implementation from other OS/FS, but without a proper way to test them, I would 
be very careful to introduce such things too quickly to the end-users.

One thing that I was missing for XFS tests, and going to publish part of it 
soon, is a way to view the internal structure of inodes and other metadata of 
Filesystem. My primary use case was to debug mount issues, in the example the 
issue that I showed during my presentation about the fuzzing. But also same 
apply to the code that manipulates inode blocks.

Hopefully, we can elaborate on that, and as I pointed earlier I would be 
careful with merging new FS features especially such wide used as 
POSIX_FALLOCATE(2) without a proper FS test suit or extensive enough testing 
that would require proper too like i.e. FSDB.

Thanks
Maciej

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On Sunday, November 3, 2019 6:06 PM, r0ller <r0l...@freemail.hu> wrote:

> Hi Jaromir,
>
> Indeed. That's bad news but thanks for your answer! I've even found this: 
> https://wiki.netbsd.org/projects/project/ffs-fallocate/
> Are there any details for this project besides that page? I don't know 
> anything about NetBSD internals though if it's not meant for gurus, I'd have 
> a look at it and give it a try.
>
> Best regards,
> r0ller
>
> -------- Eredeti levél --------
> Feladó: Jaromír Doleček < jaromir.dole...@gmail.com (Link -> 
> mailto:jaromir.dole...@gmail.com) >
> Dátum: 2019 november 3 15:16:34
> Tárgy: Re: adding linux syscall fallocate
> Címzett: r0ller < r0l...@freemail.hu (Link -> mailto:r0l...@freemail.hu) >
> Le dim. 3 nov. 2019 à 08:57, r0ller <r0l...@freemail.hu> a écrit :
>
>> As you can see on the attached screenshot, "line 4741" gets printed out. So 
>> I went on to check what happens in VOP_FALLOCATE but it gets really internal 
>> there.
>>
>> Does anyone have any hint?
>
> fallocate VOP is not implemented for FFS:
>
>> grep fallocate *
> ffs_vnops.c: { &vop_fallocate_desc, genfs_eopnotsupp }, /* fallocate */
> ffs_vnops.c: { &vop_fallocate_desc, spec_fallocate }, /* fallocate */
> ffs_vnops.c: { &vop_fallocate_desc, vn_fifo_bypass }, /* fallocate */
>
> Jaromir

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