On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 08:18:00PM -0400, colin at sq7.org wrote:
> WRT Stun-
> 
> Remind me again which of these we can't get with a combination of ARKs,
> and connecting to a non-firewalled node?

You can get the IP address. It is completely unreasonable to expect
every newbie who shows up to be required to connect to a port forwarded
node first.

Also STUN is easy.

> You can detect if the ports are forwarded bylooking for unrequested packets.
> Between the two of these, STUN seems unnecessary, and since it uses
> standardied servers, potentially dangerous.

Possibly. There will be a config option in the installer.
> 
> Is this solely to help firewalled nodes make their first connection to
> another firewalled node? Wouldn't it be better to require that one of
> their early connections be to a working/non-firewalled/port-forwarded
> node?

No. It is unreasonable to make that requirement IMHO.
-- 
Matthew J Toseland - toad at amphibian.dyndns.org
Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/
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