On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 12:09:10PM +0100, Florent Daigni?re (NextGen$) wrote: > * Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2007-03-06 01:37:52]: > > > However: > > - It would significantly improve connection reliability. If for example > > all your peers are german and in germany all domestic IPs change every > > 24 hours, if you are down for 24 hours you are lost for good. > > Do we have any stats regarding how many of our users are double-natted? > I know that in france most people had DSL connectivity before the > Wireless craze ; meaning that most users are likely to have two > different natting appliances (the routing modem and the wireless AP).
You are quite sure that it isn't possible to break out of a double-NAT? > > > - Right now good connectivity relies on getting a few geek nodes - nodes > > that are directly connected or port forwarded. UP&P would increase the > > proportion of such nodes dramatically. > > I am not sure it's an issue. I am idling on #freenet-refs on a regular > basis to see how the installer performs and to see where users get > stuck : most of them don't have connectivity problems. Not initially. The problem here is that somebody gets a few references, they're all in Germany so their addresses are recycled every 24 hours. They take their node offline for a couple of days for whatever reason. They bring it back online and they have no connectible peers. > > > - It would allow for all sorts of bootstrapping protocols. One-time > > references are the tip of the iceberg: Anything that involves giving > > your details well in advance of the actual connection attempt will be > > greatly helped by UP&P support. > > Will be greatly helped if UP&P works : indeed. Right. > > > - It would (mostly) eliminate the need to rely on centralised STUN servers. > > it's assuming there is no double nat : again ;) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/tech/attachments/20070306/0faadf21/attachment.pgp>
