On 3/6/07, Florent Daigni?re (NextGen$) <nextgens at freenetproject.org> wrote: > > * Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2007-03-06 01:37:52]: > > > Universal Plug and Play support > > =============================== > > > > I suggest that we need UP&P support. The main caveats are that it is not > > usable on an untrusted LAN, so we need to ask the user, and that we may > > not easily be able to distinguish between a local trusted LAN and an > > ISP's LAN. It is also reported that UP&P works only around 50% of the > > time when it is detected. > > Ok, let's feed the troll. > > > > > However: > > - It would significantly improve connection reliability. If for example > > all your peers are german and in germany all domestic IPs change every > > 24 hours, if you are down for 24 hours you are lost for good. > > Do we have any stats regarding how many of our users are double-natted? > I know that in france most people had DSL connectivity before the > Wireless craze ; meaning that most users are likely to have two > different natting appliances (the routing modem and the wireless AP). > > > > - Right now good connectivity relies on getting a few geek nodes - nodes > > that are directly connected or port forwarded. UP&P would increase the > > proportion of such nodes dramatically. > > I am not sure it's an issue. I am idling on #freenet-refs on a regular > basis to see how the installer performs and to see where users get > stuck : most of them don't have connectivity problems. > > That would be because if the user is tech savvy enough to get on IRC, they can forward a port at their router... DUH I'm not saying people do or do not have connectivity problems, just that this is a really bad way to judge. ;-)
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