On Tuesday 04 March 2008 18:50, Julien Cornuwel wrote:
> bbackde at googlemail.com a ?crit :
> > 2008/3/4 Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org>:
> >> On Tuesday 04 March 2008 18:04, bbackde at googlemail.com wrote:
> >>  > In the current discussions I miss one thing. Everyone wants to start
> >>  > his own thingy.
> >>  > It would be much more effective if all interested parties get
> >>  > together, decide about a design
> >>  > and then implement it _together_! SomeDude wrote fms and got some
> >>  > experience with the
> >>  > web of trust, now we start a WoT from scratch. Seagull already has a
> >>  > working (not completed)
> >>  > version of FMS in Java, but we start something different?
> >>
> >>  It would be great to see some code!
> >>
> > 
> > Ack! I am in contact with seagull, I hope we see the code in some SVN 
soon.
> > 
> >>  > Is the FMS port unneeded then? Or should WoT and FMS be competitors?
> >>  >
> >>  > No offense, I just wanted to read your thinkings about this :)
> >>  >
> >>  > I also experienced this with Frost: I am the only true Frost developer
> >>  > for a long time now,
> >>  > and again and again someone came up with its own new tools. I love
> >>  > competition, but
> >>  > as you all know there is alot to do in Frost, and we would have made a
> >>  > much better tool
> >>  > for all users if we would have worked together on Frost.
> >>
> >>  Well, with FMS, hopefully there will only be one implementation for the
> >>  foreseeable future. I get the impression batosai is getting impatient 
though.
> >>  I would be if I wasn't barred from working on it. :)
> > 
> > I understand, really. But Julien, do you really want to start with a
> > new WoT design instead
> > of using something which currently works (fms)? We have the C code for
> > this implementation,
> > and its Java port also (soon). Do you think current fms isn't the right 
thing?
> 
> I've got no problem with FMS and I personnally think that it is the way
> to go. But I don't think the WoT feature should be a part of it. As I
> explained before, most of Freenet features will, sooner or later, need a
> WoT. Making it a plugin accessible through FCP will save some time for
> other developpments.

I thought FMS was going to be a plugin accessible through FCP?
> 
> And all client apps could benefit of a common WoT : if an identity is a
> valuable contributor to discussion boards, there is a good chance that
> the files he shares are valuable too.
> 
> Of course I will re-use a lot of the existing code (why re-invent the
> wheel). My idea is just to get the WoT feature out of client apps.
> 
> 
> @Toad : You're right. I'm impatient ;) I'm finally learning Java, and
> seeking for an idea that could help the project. Maybe I'm wasting my
> time with that idea of independant plugin and should help FMS' java
> porter to make his WoT accessible to other apps ? What is your opinion
> about what I should start with ? If your answer is my original idea of a
> filesharing tool, note that I'll need a WoT ;)

:)

Well there's not much you can do without the code.
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