Thanks, Mike.  We were a TSM shop until we switched to NBU 6 years ago.  I
don't think they're looking to go back, but there's no question it scales.
It's probably the biggest, baddest backup system there is.  :)

-Adam

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 12:11 PM, Michael Ryder <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Adam
>
> Have you looked at Tivoli (Now Spectrum Protect)?  My environment isn't as
> large as yours, but from what I've heard it scales well.  We use it to
> backup both Linux and Windows VMs and physical hosts.
>
> The add-on Tivoli Data Protector for Virtual Environments is the magic
> smoke that adds features like block-level incremental backups, instant
> restores and other goodies.
>
>
> https://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/mobile/#!/SS8TDQ_7.1.3/ve.user/c_ve_overview_tsmnode.html
>
> Scaling out involving multiple data movers per vCenter is possible, and
> there are many ways to tune and filter how they operate, such as max number
> of simultaneous jobs per datastore, per esxi host, etc.
>
> Let me know if you have any questions- I'll try to answer them or can put
> you in touch with a great Tivoli community where you can find folks with
> larger installations, more answers etc.
>
> Mike
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 27, 2015, Adam Levin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hey all, I've got a question about how you backup your VM environment?
>>
>> We're using vSphere 5.5 and NetApp NAS for datastores.  We have about 75
>> 8TB datastores, and about 2500 VMs.  The VMs are not distributed evenly
>> because of service levels associated with the datastores.
>>
>> We're being told by various backup vendors that the main issue is the
>> number of VMs per datastore, because quiescing lots of VMs and then taking
>> a datastore snapshot can produce long wait times when rolling the qieusced
>> images back in to the running VM.
>>
>> Our VM team is telling us that there is no current tool to manage the
>> number of VMs per datastore, just the size of the datastores.
>>
>> So I'm curious what some common methods are for managing backups in a
>> large VM environment. Do you just use agents and backup from within the
>> VM?  Do you bother doing app consistent backups of the VMs or just snapshot
>> the datastore and not worry about consistency?  Have you found a product
>> that manages qiuescing and snapshots in a reasonable way?
>>
>> We've looked at NetBackup, Commvault and Veeam so far.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Adam
>>
>>
>>
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