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One more vote of confidence for NBU. It's been a while since I've used
it, but it was most definitely The Awesome.

D


On 10/29/2015 12:26 PM, Adam Levin wrote:
> Thanks, Mike.  We were a TSM shop until we switched to NBU 6 years
> ago. I don't think they're looking to go back, but there's no
> question it scales.  It's probably the biggest, baddest backup
> system there is.  :)
> 
> -Adam
> 
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 12:11 PM, Michael Ryder
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> Adam
> 
> Have you looked at Tivoli (Now Spectrum Protect)?  My environment 
> isn't as large as yours, but from what I've heard it scales well. 
> We use it to backup both Linux and Windows VMs and physical hosts.
> 
> The add-on Tivoli Data Protector for Virtual Environments is the 
> magic smoke that adds features like block-level incremental
> backups, instant restores and other goodies.
> 
> https://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/mobile/#!/SS8TDQ_7.1.3/
ve.user/c_ve_overview_tsmnode.html
>
>  Scaling out involving multiple data movers per vCenter is
> possible, and there are many ways to tune and filter how they
> operate, such as max number of simultaneous jobs per datastore, per
> esxi host, etc.
> 
> Let me know if you have any questions- I'll try to answer them or 
> can put you in touch with a great Tivoli community where you can 
> find folks with larger installations, more answers etc.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, October 27, 2015, Adam Levin <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> Hey all, I've got a question about how you backup your VM 
> environment?
> 
> We're using vSphere 5.5 and NetApp NAS for datastores.  We have 
> about 75 8TB datastores, and about 2500 VMs.  The VMs are not 
> distributed evenly because of service levels associated with the 
> datastores.
> 
> We're being told by various backup vendors that the main issue is
> the number of VMs per datastore, because quiescing lots of VMs and
> then taking a datastore snapshot can produce long wait times when
> rolling the qieusced images back in to the running VM.
> 
> Our VM team is telling us that there is no current tool to manage
> the number of VMs per datastore, just the size of the datastores.
> 
> So I'm curious what some common methods are for managing backups in
> a large VM environment. Do you just use agents and backup from
> within the VM?  Do you bother doing app consistent backups of the
> VMs or just snapshot the datastore and not worry about consistency?
> Have you found a product that manages qiuescing and snapshots in a
> reasonable way?
> 
> We've looked at NetBackup, Commvault and Veeam so far.
> 
> Thanks, -Adam
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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