Wow.

A better answer would have been "Really sorry Theo and everyone, but I
always come off as a dick..."

your opinion and screed don't change anything.

attila <att...@stalphonsos.com> wrote:

> Theo de Raadt <dera...@openbsd.org> wrote:
> > >"Theo de Raadt" <dera...@openbsd.org> wrote:
> > >> attila <att...@stalphonsos.com> wrote:
> > >> > Hi tech@,
> > >> > 
> > >> > I frequently want to move a file from one place to another and shred
> > >> > the original via the rm(1) -P option.  On several occasions I have
> > >> > forgotten about wanting to shred the original file when using mv(1)
> > >> > instead (out of habit) and ended up losing the ability to do so easily
> > >> > because mv(1) unlinks the original in the cross-filesystem case.
> > >> > 
> > >> > This patch adds a -P option to mv(1) that does the same thing rm -P
> > >> > does in all the cases where it would normally just unlink the source
> > >> > file.
> > >> > 
> > >> > Maybe someone else has shared my "d'oh!" moment after typing mv?
> > >> > Maybe this isn't worth it and should just be dealt with using a shell
> > >> > alias, but to me this feels cleaner.
> > >> > 
> > >> > Feedback most welcome as always.
> > >> 
> > >> over my dead body.
> > >
> > >A better answer would've been:
> > >
> > >    POSIX gives us no way to "shred" a file and our non-standard
> > >    extension to rm already irks us; we don't want to add yet another
> > >    to mv.
> > >
> > >That would've made sense, and also would've been polite.  More
> > >importantly it would've been better for someone to have found that in
> > >the archives than what you said, which will surely leave people who
> > >find it wondering why you behave this way.
> > 
> > att...@stalphonsos.com whoever the hell you are, you don't get to tell
> > me when i am being impolite.  you are some random hiding behind an
> > email address, while everyone knows exactly who I am and where I come
> > from, with >20 years of opinion turned into validity under my belt (and
> > some wrong, but that goes with the territory)
> 
> I'm many things but anonymous isn't one of them:
> 
>     attila@xix:~ 121:$ grep attila /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/urng.c
>      * Copyright (C) 2015 Sean Levy <att...@stalphonsos.com>
> 
> > On the other hand, random mostly-anon people who aren't brave enough
> > to put their full credentials into their email address tend to have
> > close to zero influence.  Shocking isn't it?  Know how to fix that?
> 
> Nothing to fix.  Those of us with Jewish last names who aren't
> zionists frequently take the approach of not blasting our last names
> across the net in every communication because we've learned that
> zionists are aggressive and it doesn't make sense to make it easy for
> them to target/abuse you.  None the less, I've never made a secret of
> who I am or that attila = Sean Levy, I just prefer not to use the
> latter in casual communication.  Anything of mine in your trees has
> had my real name attached to it since it was imported.
> 
> > So your opinion (AND JUDGEMENT ME OF) counts for far less, and you
> > should (a) consider your idiotic position, (b) recognize you aren't
> > someone who can land / not land the proposed change, and (c) realize
> > randoms on the internet/unix don't succeed change the internet/unix -
> > much to their anonymous nature, oh the dismay, oh my god.
> 
> The substance of your screed comes down to: "Don't you know who I am?"
> 
> > Over my dead body I said.
> > 
> > I mean it.  I will not permit the stupidity.  Nor will I accept the
> > stupidity of trying to call me out for calling out the stupid.
> 
> So in your view you were "calling out the stupid" by answering a patch
> with "over my dead body," and my objecting to your rudeness is also
> stupidity.  This is not an interpretation that too many people I've
> met in real life would share, but I guess that isn't the case here.
> 
> Good to know.
> 
> You also sent me a private email which was ruder and more direct.  In
> it you ask me what gives me the right... to do what, I'm not sure, but
> I guess you mean: what gives me the right to call out your rudeness?
> 
> Every person born has that right, Theo.  Everyone has the right to
> reject rudeness directed at them.
> 
> Pax, -A
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