--On Friday, 03 March, 2006 10:39 -0600 "Stephen Hayes (TX/EUS)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> I'm not sure we're in agreement. Let's assume that we switch
>> contractors every two years. We can't have even the serial
>> numbers (RFCxxxx for sake of argument) changing or resetting
>> whenever we change contractor. So I think the IETF has to
>> govern all types of identifier, including the basic document
>> serial number.
>> 
>> > So a possible requirement is that the publisher only uses
>> > identifiers as instructed by the IETF and not also allocate
>> > them to a publisher defined series.
>> 
>> Yes. But I didn't get that from your previous paragraph.
> 
> I listed this as a possible requirement due to the
> implications. It means that there is no longer an overarching
> serial identifier like the current RFC series.  A serial
> identifier allocated by the IETF is insufficient since
> independent submissions do not go through the the IETF.  A
> serial identifier allocated by the publisher is insufficient
> since the IETF can request it not be allocated one of those
> identifiers.

And the solution, of course, is two identifiers, which is what
we have been doing for years, albeit badly for standards-track
documents (for reasons that are clearly out of TechSpec scope).

If there is a techspec requirement, I think it is that, if there
is a serial document identifier (and, IMO, dropping it would be
a terrible idea), the numbering system "belong" sufficiently to
the IETF that, if there is a change in publisher, the new one
can continue the numbers where the old one left off.  This does
_not_ require IETF management of the number space, consolidation
of document numbers with standards-identifiers (numbers or
otherwise), or any number of other too-complex possibilities.

     john

> 
> Stephen





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